WoW Makes EQ It's Bitch

[Triggar]

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2004/Dec/1098177.htm

IRVINE, Calif. --(Business Wire)-- Dec. 1, 2004 -- Blizzard's Newest Title Becomes North America's Fastest-Selling PC Game Ever, with Record Number of Accounts Created and Concurrent Players in First 24 Hours

Blizzard Entertainment(R) today confirmed that World of Warcraft(R) has broken day-one sales records in North America, making it the most successful PC game launch ever. World of Warcraft, the company's subscription-based massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG), sold through to over 240,000 customers at retailers in North America on Tuesday, November 23, selling more in its first 24 hours than any other PC game in history.(a)

In addition to shattering sales records, World of Warcraft also broke peak concurrency and account creation records for a MMORPG. Within the first day, over 200,000 players created World of Warcraft accounts. By 5:00 p.m. PST, over 100,000 were playing the game concurrently. These two record-breaking numbers made World of Warcraft the fastest-growing MMORPG in history. Within a single day, all original 40+ World of Warcraft servers were filled to capacity, and by the end of the Thanksgiving weekend, more than 40 additional servers were deployed to meet the rapidly growing player base, as the number of new accounts and concurrent users continued to grow.

"We were all extremely pleased with the success of World of Warcraft on its first day of launch," said Mike Morhaime, president of Blizzard Entertainment. "Once we saw the numbers for the first day, we knew that we had to immediately increase capacity to accommodate the huge numbers of players joining our game. We're glad so many people are enjoying World of Warcraft, and we are dedicated to supporting a fun and smooth game experience for everyone."

Retailers across North America reported that the World of Warcraft launch was unequivocally their biggest day-one sales in PC gaming history. Leading industry retailers, such as Wal-Mart, Best Buy, EB, and GameStop, all reported that hundreds of their stores sold out of World of Warcraft within the first day.

"World of Warcraft has once again shown that Blizzard consistently delivers the best games in the industry," said Robert McKenzie, vice president of merchandising at GameStop. "It sold better than any other PC game this year -- in fact, World of Warcraft enjoyed the best day-one sell-through GameStop has ever seen on a PC title!"

Over the Thanksgiving weekend, players continued to buy World of Warcraft in record numbers, with a total of over 350,000(a) copies of the game selling through. Blizzard Entertainment and its retail partners expect the remaining supplies of World of Warcraft to sell out soon. Blizzard is currently evaluating its ability to ship additional games to retailers, given the unexpectedly high demand on the servers. The company continues to increase server capacity to accommodate the growing number of players connecting to the game. As the additional servers are brought online and proven stable, additional copies of World of Warcraft will be made available at retail. Blizzard will announce the availability of those additional games as soon as they are on shelves.

[Ivan]

There's only one way to go now, down. :twisted:

[MrVicchio]

WoW is aimed at a different market then EQII.

WoW is easy play, EQII is more in depth play.

Which do you think is gonna sell more copies?

[Ivan]

WoW is aimed at a different market then EQII.

WoW is easy play, EQII is more in depth play.

Which do you think is gonna sell more copies?
Ummm the one with hotter elves?

I don't know. I suck at pop quizzes!

[Squeeky]

Fscking awesome

[Sputty]

WoW is aimed at a different market then EQII.

WoW is easy play, EQII is more in depth play.

Which do you think is gonna sell more copies?
Indepth = more bugs and problems?

[Everay]

100,000 % S(how many servers are there?)

Eve holds the record for people on 1 server, 12,250.

[Strygun]

I hate to say it but, I'm definatly going to:

TOLD YA SO!

...btw, 1 day old. but good post. :)

[MrVicchio]

I played the WoW beta and I am playing EQII.

EQII doesn't have many bugs, and the most annoying that I DID know of, dissappearing NPC's is fixed.

WoW is a decent game, its just less comlicated then EQII.

WoW has 3 things over EQII.

Crafting system (EQII has a seriously conveluted system)

PvP (I like PvP but its not a make or break situation for me.)

Warcraft Setting.


EQII Has three things over WoW

Depth

Graphics (I like EQII's over WoW when it's all said and done)

Deeper GamePlay


Both games have pro's and con's.

[Salazar]

Gamespot gave WoW 9.5
Gamespot gave EQII 7.8

:D

[EarlyDawn]

Good to see.

The difference between WoW and EQII is that EQII feels like work. With WoW, I'm actually enjoying myself.

You can have all the deep gameplay mechanics you want, but if its not fun to play, it dosen't mean a thing. Besides, WoW can start implementing deep systems once the server issues are worked out.

[oddfish]

I played WoW at my uncle's house the other night using my friend, kyle's account. He's a Warlock, human. It's sick. One of the most fun games I've ever played over teh interweb. I mean, it was just amazing how much there was to do ALL the time. Always little fights and little tasks to perform. You always feel like you're playing the game, not walking around doing nothing and just looking at stuff. It's great. And, as far as easy is concerned: i wouldn't say EASY per se, i'd use the term Accessible. it's more Accessible.

[Triggar]

All this talk makes me want to pick up a copy of WoW and go to town!

[Ivan]

All this talk makes me want to pick up a copy of WoW and go to town!
If you do I will. Make sure you play on the server CDL plays on! :)

[Triggar]

I'll do it in exchange for the hoodie

[Ivan]

I'll do it in exchange for the hoodie
Hell no! Deals off!

[Triggar]

http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/cwm/big/firemad.gif

[Strygun]

All this talk makes me want to pick up a copy of WoW and go to town!
play the horde!

and.. may I say.. what a large, angry face you have.

[FearTheAtlas]

I more or less agree with Ctrl+Alt+Del's (http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/index.php) view:

I was in the beta for Everquest 2. It sucked. I absolutely fucking hated the shit out of that game, and I removed it's essence from my hard drive as fast as I could. It had some interesting ideas, but anything I found acceptable about the game was far, far outweighed by the stuff that annoyed the hell out of me.

The game was visually ugly. In their attempt at acheiving "next generation, CGI quality graphics", they gave everything that "plastic look", with horrible textures, and then wrapped it all around some of the clunkiest, most unnatural animations I've seen. And then they threw in a horrible polygon draw system for good measure.

The quest system may be wonderful, there may be top notch trade skills, but I'm not going to spend hundreds of hours staring at an ugly piece of junk just to experience it.

[Triggar]

Why doesn't he tell us what he really thinks? :lol:

[Hamma]

Everyone knows that I was not (am not) a real RPG player. But WoW makes it fun, I've been having a great time gaming with my team in WoW, every day is fun and the questing never gets old. I am not surprised about the launch really, I was in line at 12am on that Tuesday and there were about 40 other people there.. hell they only let us buy one copy each.

Overall considering the influx, the server issues have been fairly minimal. Other than the few servers that were pounded into the ground on day one and had to be shutdown for a few days, things have been fairly smooth.

Come on in trig, play with me and Jenny on Laughing Skull :p

[Triggar]

Alright SCREW YOU GUYS!

I might as well get my jollies before I officially enter the engineering program :lol:

Now to convince Martyr to get it for me..... ;)

[I Hate Pants]

I haven't purchused WoW yet. On the sole purpose of not wanting to lose my social life. Although I don't think I can hold out much longer.

[Indecisive]

Alright SCREW YOU GUYS!

I might as well get my jollies before I officially enter the engineering program :lol:

Now to convince Martyr to get it for me..... ;)


Alliance Laugh skull! :D

[MattxMosh]

I haven't purchused WoW yet. On the sole purpose of not wanting to lose my social life. Although I don't think I can hold out much longer.


Same here, except, I don't have a social life. I may just stop going to work.

[Mag-Mower]

Gamespot gave WoW 9.5
Gamespot gave EQII 7.8

:D
Gamespot gave Burnout 3 9.6
Gamespot gave GTA:SA 9.5

2 can play that game

[Khronos]

I haven't purchused WoW yet. On the sole purpose of not wanting to lose my social life. Although I don't think I can hold out much longer.

if only i could get my girlfriend hooked...

[Infernus]

I liked WoW much better tehn I liked EQ

[Biohazzard56]

MrVic you forget that EQ is the biggest MMO. Its not that Wow is easier to play, someone looking at a box at best buy cant tell. Its essentially that hype and the fact that WoW is a fundamently better game according to reviews.

[BlackHawk]

Comparing WoW and EQ2 is like asking people whether they like hamburgers or hotdogs better. Everybodies going to have a different opinion, which they will back up with opinions dressed up as fact. The debate, however, is pointless, as everyone knows that the taco rules all. :p

[Ivan]

Comparing WoW and EQ2 is like asking people whether they like hamburgers or hotdogs better. Everybodies going to have a different opinion, which they will back up with opinions dressed up as fact. The debate, however, is pointless, as everyone knows that the taco rules all. :p
:lol: I'm with you on that one.

So Triggar, you're getting it now? I might have to pick it up then this Friday after I get paid.

[internetn]

Damn you people, I bought EQ2 and now WoW looks so good... damn you...

[Triggar]

So Triggar, you're getting it now? I might have to pick it up then this Friday after I get paid.

I don't know Ivan. My last day of classes is next Friday, so if I get it, I should get it after that - let me put all my energy into finals before I waste away in front of the computer :lol:

[MrVicchio]

Damn you people, I bought EQ2 and now WoW looks so good... damn you...


Shush, don't say that too loudly.

[AztecWarrior]

There is only one good RPG:

http://www.ak-47.us/pic/rpg-7-launcher.gif

[internetn]

lol that was pretty funny

[AztecWarrior]

I find it funner that people like going on the same old mindless quests: i.e. "Retrieve for me (number) (object)."

[Giovanni]

EQII for me is like trying to enjoy yourself while being anally raped by five giant spiked dicks.

Why the hell would you want a game with so much micro-management that half your time is spent on trying to get the more complicated system to work correctly? As far as I'm concerned I can see myself playing WoW for years because quite frankly it's more enjoyable then what I played in EQII.

With the promises Blizzard gives the players the game can only get better and better, and you know they will deliver unlike some other company who brought us the bug and shit filled SW:G, the game that had potential PS and last but not least EQ whose bugs were fixed by releasing new expansions. Last I checked SOE was still promising to fix bugs on PS that they had on release not counting that they pulled an EQ and release Core Combat before these bugs were fixed. So tell me! Who should I trust to give me a better gaming experience? The game that is unfriendly for a casual gamers that requires a PHD in physics to operate or the casual gamer friendly that's much less complicated without being simple?

Fact is WoW so much better then EQII and the sales proved it.

Quit trying to defend the measily game Mr. Vic :lol: ;).

[Salazar]

Wow, check out the results in this poll.

http://www.gamespy.com/articles/569/569110p1.html?fromint=1

[Ivan]

*rant* ... Quit trying to defend the measily game Mr. Vic :lol: ;).
He's not, he just said they both have their own Pros and Cons.

[Mag-Mower]

There is only one good RPG:

http://www.ak-47.us/pic/rpg-7-launcher.gif
:lol: i second that

[Jennyboo]

Wow is the best.. Iv been stuck in limbo since playing ..I havent had time for much of else..Playing making food playing then sleeping :lol:

[AztecWarrior]

Here is my WoW experience (beta):

1. Create Troll Hunter.

2. Kill stuff for a reward of crappy items I could have afforded normally, i.e "Torn Cloak made in Taiwan. +0 to everything. Does not show up on character."

3. Get bored, find a path out of Valley of Trials. Take it.

4. Fall into huge ocean and get eaten by a sea monster.

5. Do the whole ghost thing and run back to my body.

6. The only way out is through a river. Infested with crocodiles. I quit after I was advancing only a few dozen meters every life, like WWI.

[OfaLoaf]

Here is my WoW experience (beta):

1. Create Troll Hunter.

2. Kill stuff for a reward of crappy items I could have afforded normally, i.e "Torn Cloak made in Taiwan. +0 to everything. Does not show up on character."

3. Get bored, find a path out of Valley of Trials. Take it.

4. Fall into huge ocean and get eaten by a sea monster.

5. Do the whole ghost thing and run back to my body.

6. The only way out is through a river. Infested with crocodiles. I quit after I was advancing only a few dozen meters every life, like WWI.
What river? There's no river in Durotaur.


EDIT: The Taiwan bit is true, though.

[Giovanni]

Everything but rings, amulets and trinkets show up on the character... the river he's reffering to is the southfuy river full of crocolisks that seperates the barrens and durotar.

[OfaLoaf]

There's a bridge there, if you just stay on the path.

[AztecWarrior]

When I told this to my friend, he said "There are no crocodiles in WoW."

:lies: There are also no Americans in Baghdad :lies:

[Jaged]

When I told this to my friend, he said "There are no crocodiles in WoW."

:lies: There are also no Americans in Baghdad :lies:
Congrats, that is the first time I ever remember seeing someone use that smiley.

[AztecWarrior]

Congrats, that is the first time I ever remember seeing someone use that smiley.
:crapper: Try that on for size, then.

[OfaLoaf]

:devilwink :cool2: :bouncy: >:| :zzz:

Those ones aren't used much.

[AztecWarrior]

:devilwink :cool2: :bouncy: >:| :zzz:

Those ones aren't used much.
Visit the PlanetSide Discussion forum.

"I HURD THERE WAS A TIRAL FOR PLANETSIDE IS IIT TRUE :devilwink :cool2: :bouncy: >:| :zzz: " [sic]

[Gigabein]

Depth

...

Deeper GamePlay


I keep seeing this in forums and game reviews. Can you explain this Vic?

[Giovanni]

It's basicly just the complexity of the damn game... this affects this and that affects that so if you don't do this, this won't work... that kind of thing...

I am so tired you have no idea...

[Jennyboo]

Alright SCREW YOU GUYS!

I might as well get my jollies before I officially enter the engineering program :lol:

Now to convince Martyr to get it for me..... ;)

When you get it Trig join Laughing skull :) play with Hamma and I :) :love:

[Lonehunter]

Gamespot gave Burnout 3 9.6
Gamespot gave GTA:SA 9.5

2 can play that game
Is there a point here?

Comparing WoW and EQ2 is like asking people whether they like hamburgers or hotdogs better. Everybodies going to have a different opinion, which they will back up with opinions dressed up as fact. The debate, however, is pointless...
Exactly

What river? There's no river in Durotaur.

Between Duratar and Northern barrens.

[Giovanni]

D-U-R-O-T-A-R! Is it so hard to fucking spell?

[MrVicchio]

I keep seeing this in forums and game reviews. Can you explain this Vic?

SURE.

Okay first thing is first, I was a big EQII Fan, till I played the game.

There are LOTS of things in the EQII mechanics that make it deeper, the quest system as a whole, the stories and especially the Betrayal Quest (which I have done TYVFM)... I mean hearing Christopher Lee call for your execution.. how cool can you get?

The crafting ssytem is inheriently deeper. It takes SERIOUS dedication, friends, guildmates and tons of patience to advance in the artisan lines. You cannot be "just a weaponsmith" and expect to use that as solo time. It ain't gonna happen. Its also hosed beyond compare , but the actual amount of craftable items and the lengths to ACHIEVE said crafting...

Comming up on Holly Windstalkers grave out in Qeynos Hills... I didn't knwo whether to Piss on it for her killing my EQI character several times, or be awed by that little touch...

All that being said, it took me 3 days of hard WoW play with Dedenimuls to realize the Truth about EQII and WoW.

I could talk about the broke ass crafting/selling system in EQII (relying on others to even do lvl 10 stuff was GARBAGE, or the fact you have to stay IN YOUR ROOM to sell... BAH!)

I could go into the detail of the EQII graphics Vs the WoW graphics... but that leads to an artistic sense debate as well as a "are the graphics WORTH the high price of admission?" debate.

Thats all BS, you name ANYTHING ABOUT WoW or EQII and I can simplify the Truth for you.


Here is the Truth:

WoW is a Casual Gamers MMO done near flawlessly. Like a great PG movie, fun for the kids, but fun for the adults as well.

EQII is a Hard Core gamers game. The advantages of being in a large guild, having multiple accounts and computers running and the slower pace of advancement leaves the player base for EQII inheriently smaller.

[OfaLoaf]

D-U-R-O-T-A-R! Is it so hard to fucking spell?
Hey I can spel Durotaur write!

[Sputty]

You spellt it ronn, it's rite
idiot

[internetn]

What does it matter? Everybody will have their different opinion, forcing it on someone and trying to tell how much of a retard they are for buying a game, is just plain crazy

BTW Giovanni, I think you need to take it easy. Your sounding like the games a friggin God or something, I imagin that your one of those guys that stand in the corner talking to himself, scheming his next revenge plan

[Giovanni]

It's seven letters, how hard can it be to remember? Oh and I am a god :p !