WoW Destroying PC Gaming as we know it?

[Hamma]

http://bigkid.com.au/2006/02/20/the-dangers-of-monogamey/#more-4483

Pretty cool read.

[OneManArmy]

yea totally leave out the HUGE increase of people playing on consoles instead. good article dipshit[the writer].

I'd look at the impact of consoles on PC gaming not some Game. the type of gamer that ONLY plays wow. would ONLY play one other game if it wasnt wow.


bottom line shitty article.

[Hamma]

:rolleyes:

Because you know ever one of the 5.5 million subscribers of wow. :p

It's still a good read even though there are a few extreme views in it. Consoles have been around alot longer than WoW. I personally HATE playing an FPS on a console.

[OneManArmy]

yes but consoles were just as taboo back then. now playing games is mainstream.

and of course there are exceptions :p thats a given to everything.

but consoles have gotten faster smoother and easier to paly on. a hell of a lot easier and more acessible than PC's.
blaming it on wow is just stupid. at least blaming the majority of it on wow is stupid.

[Gryphon]

I don't buy other games because I am stuck on WoW.....I don't buy other games because they suck. If a better games comes along, I will get it. I have bought a few of the recently hyped titles during my WoW subscription and interest in them was short lived.

The question I***8217;m putting forward is whether the success of WoW and the nature of it***8217;s genre is having a negative impact on the gaming industry?

The success of WoW will not have a negative effect on the gaming community, it will will crush the crappy games and encourage the production of better games.

In addition, MMOs in general and WoW is no exception have time sinks.

They do their best to put off the end of the game as long as possible. Who wants to spend $60 on a game they are going to beat in 10 hours. I rather put my money in monthly and have the end of my game be quite longer than just a couple of weekends.

[Biohazzard56]

Before I leave Ohio, I am dealing the death blow to the capitalist aggressor. By cancelling my WoW account.:evil:

[Baneblade]

Giving up WoW was surprisingly easy when I decided to go back to Eve.

[Squeeky]

WoW, is a fun game, that has managed to hold the attention of 5.5 million subscribers. When it ceases to be fun, i'm sure people will stop playing, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

This guy is basically insinuating that people are playing WoW, because there is a major lack of "good" games being released. That is ludacris.

BTW, Playing an FPS on a console is :barf:

[Kyonye]

BTW, Playing an FPS on a console is :barf:

For the most part, yes. I do enjoy Halo, like many other people, but definately prefer mouse and keyboard when it comes to first person shooters.

[Geist]

Yes,I rented some of the new fps's and they sucked.Halo seems to be one of the only good fps's on a console.

[Lartnev]

The success of WoW will not have a negative effect on the gaming community, it will will crush the crappy games and encourage the production of better games.

WoW ultimately has nothing to do with that, the only people who can encourage the production of better games are the publishers. The dev houses will always be coming up with new and different games, it's just a case of whether the publishers wish to run with those games..... but I digress.

I'm honestly not actually sure what he's trying to say, just seems to be annoyed that everyone else is playing WoW and not joining him for a game of Quake 4 deathmatch or something.

[Ait'al]

I think people are forgetting that its normal to play one large game for a long time sometimes before you get the next also. It's normal of single player. And I'm sure has been very normal in MMorpg type games since they started being played 10+ years ago.

They just need to be patient and wait. If you've ever played a blizzard game in the past you know that is the normal game play trend for that companies games. It's been that way since atleast warcraft first came out.

You get different affects based on the companies games, or the game itself. Some games you only need to play so long and you can go back and forth. Some games you play alot to get the experience or you get hooked. If you look at the past that makes sense with how blizzard and warcraft are played. Its about whos on the top atm. It's just that in the past other game companies producing games with different game experiences were the ones making the most sales. Now blizzard is, who's games have always been played, that way are being seen most. It's not going to change now that they have top sales in the mmos. It will disapear when someone else gets their sales and they are no longer top again.

People played their games like this before this happened, when they were still sitting in the background, and it will happen while they are on top. Things are about as steady as they could be atm from what i see. If you dont want them on top because you think it hurts the rest of the gaming industry and its creativity play something else. It will grow again. Just goes to show you how smal and insignificant the fps genre is on gameing. 8)

Just think that your putting a very heavy played rts(especially their immersion ability) based game into an rpg and imagine the natural consiquences and wonder. I dont play it but i'm sure thats has something to do with it considering how much i have played blizzard in the past. Not that they were ever my main gameing company. (sierra and broderbund types for me)

[OneManArmy]

like he said. I remember when games came out a few times a year at most. now its expected to buy a new game every month. fuck that.

[LesserShade]

I don't buy other games because I am stuck on WoW.....I don't buy other games because they suck. If a better games comes along, I will get it. I have bought a few of the recently hyped titles during my WoW subscription and interest in them was short lived.
That is pretty much the answer to the guy's question. If distributors weren't so busy dicking over developers, we'd have way more fun, but more importantly, innovative games to play (a.k.a. more WoW options).

Hats off to blizzard for really delivering a great MMO. They didn't really do anything innovative so to speak, but what they did do was address one of the biggest problems that makes every MMO suck, and that's the character development grind. WoW somehow took the part of the game that is so mind numbing in other MMOs and made it fun. Taking a character to 60 in WoW is actually entertaining and because of that, casual players who will most likely never see the endgame in any other MMO can take their time and have fun playing WoW.

WoW could have been the greatest MMO ever, but the endgame is just shit. I can't imagine how anybody can argue it any other way. Unless of course you thought EQ was good. That's what makes my head hurt so much. How can Blizzard take the boring parts of an MMO and make them awesome, but take the exciting part and make it boring?

The problem is what are the alternatives? If you like MMORPGs, what the hell else are you going to play? What developers need to be doing is approaching the issue just like Blizzard did. What do people like about WoW and what do they hate about it.

[Lartnev]

How can Blizzard take the boring parts of an MMO and make them awesome, but take the exciting part and make it boring?

Two words: Expansion Pack. ;)

I think when you make a game to cater for the casual gamer, you have to make everything for the casual gamer, hence even the endgame is geared to the casual gamer.

[Hamma]

I don't know.. I dont really find the end game in WoW all that casual. 40 people in an instance?

[LesserShade]

Two words: Expansion Pack. ;)

I think when you make a game to cater for the casual gamer, you have to make everything for the casual gamer, hence even the endgame is geared to the casual gamer.
Yeah I'm with hamma here, I don't think anything about WoW is casual friendly after you hit 60.

PvP is why I started playing WoW. The thing that gets me is the characters are fun as hell to play even in PvP, way more so than in DAOC which was the last MMORPG i played. The system however, is garbage and ruins the whole experience. I started playing in the beginning and I don't think anybody had any real idea what WoW's endgame would be like at that time. Once I realized PvE loot grinding was the game and some half assed gimmicky PvP zones and the worst PvP advancement system ever was all it could offer from the PvP side I dropped my account like a sack of bricks.

I'm just bitter that the game is fun on so many counts, but the endgame just isn't there. I'm kind hoping that down the road they'll fix some aspects of PvP and make it way more entertaining. I'm fairly sure though that is just not the vision of blizzard. A PvE endgame seems to appeal to more people (EQ's success?) than a PvP one.

[Hamma]

I quit for similar reasons, I loved to PVP here and there but I was always getting bitchslapped by no-life's who ran instances 24/7. I relised the only way I could compete was either to PVP 24/7 and get equip or farm instances 24/7. I decided for neither and quit.

[Lartnev]

That'll learn me for making a sweeping generalisation :p

[Baneblade]

I never even got to 60 on any of my characters, I'd keep rerolling them because I knew it would only piss me off to spend countless hours farming for a purple that would be obsolete as soon as I got it.

[Hamma]

:lol: Indeed - I had 2 60's and regret my time in the game. Sure people can say "Oh but there is plenty to do" but personally if I am going to play I want to be twinked. I rolled a gimpadin at first and got frustrated so I figured hey - I will roll a rogue. But even on a rogue I was getting owned.

I don't want to waste my life awway getting twinked - and if you have bad equipment in the game you are dead. It's not based on any form of skill.

[Geist]

It's just based on poeple with enough money to buy good equipment.

[LesserShade]

no it's not even that. Shit, I'm a lazy bastard, i came into the game for pvp and that's all I cared about. My priest and rogue were twinked as well as real money would allow, but you can't buy good equipment, you have to farm them from instances. That's what killed me. God I hate PvE.

[Phantomgate]

we seriously need a WoW discussion board.

[Hamma]

negative on that

[Geist]

How about a general video game discussion board?

[Hamma]

What about "The Lounge" :p

[Baneblade]

But the lounge is for strippers... :(

[Geist]

What about "The Lounge" :pThat would be the comedy section,not so much video games.

[Electrofreak]

I played WoW with a Night Elf Hunter to lvl 30 then I quit. Reason is, it just seems like a waste of time to me. In EVE I can train my skills even when I'm not online, so I can actually have a job and a life and continue to compete with those who spend all day playing.

That and I couldn't stand how WoW has virtually no risk. People just charge around like idiots, especially in PVP, because theres no real downside to losing. Damn, when you lose a ship in EVE, it's GONE. You might be able to fly back and scoop up some of your old equipment and modules that weren't turned to dust when your ship exploded, but if you lost it in PVP it's very likely your killer made off with the stuff. Because of that, people actually play smart, and most of the game is about out-thinking your opponent and exploiting their weaknesses. It's a game for the very patient brain-gamer. When I want to play a casual game, I play an FPS. When I want to play a game where I feel a sense of pride and accomplishment, I play EVE.

So, basically what I'm saying is... fuck WoW.

[Hamma]

That would be the comedy section,not so much video games.
Lounge implies you can post whatever you want.

[Geist]

Sorry,I have OCD.I can't have things mixed or the little voice in my head annoys forever.I know,I know,you want a meatball sub.I'm going ok just stop annoying me.

PS Did I mention the only other way to make him stop is eat a meatball sub.

[Hamma]

http://www.thenetworkadministrator.com/crackpipe.jpg

[Setari]

More like LSD. :doh:

[Ivan]

I have voices in my head too. They always talk to me, but they speak german and I can't understand them.