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xmodum
2011-08-17, 07:17 AM
Alright I know at least one of you still plays this. I'm in the last few weeks of my deployment, ready to go home, got lots of extra time now, and I just downloaded EVE.
I started a new character since I gave my last accounts to Peace, and I'm sure you've made them your bitch now, can't ask for em back. So a fresh start.
Names Mikhail Klein. Amarr. Btw I have only done the first noob mission and this game is a million times better.
Hope to hear from someone. I'd love to have some friends to play with/ some help
Hamma
2011-08-17, 09:47 AM
I tried to get into it again recently, but yet again I found myself sitting around wondering what to do next and lapsed. :lol:
Logit
2011-08-17, 09:57 AM
I tried to get into it again recently, but yet again I found myself sitting around wondering what to do next and lapsed. :lol:
Not enough pew pew in Eve for my liking.
Krowe
2011-08-17, 10:28 AM
I'm at 5 mil SP now, been trying to do incursions. Did a couple and made a ton of money (10 mil per 'mission') and in about 2-3 hours I made 100 mil. Apparently I was part of a "slower" group as well. If you want EvE to pay for itself, I highly suggest trying incursions.
Baneblade
2011-08-17, 11:30 AM
I finally just up and quit EVE permanently. I like the idea of it more than what EVE actually is.
Hamma
2011-08-17, 12:21 PM
I finally just up and quit EVE permanently. I like the idea of it more than what EVE actually is.
Probably couldn't have said that better. Same boat here.
xmodum
2011-08-17, 01:25 PM
Blasphemy. After my deployment EVE is just the way to get rid of my aggression that I couldn't get out on Iraqi's faces.
Krowe whats your in-game name? I got a buddy of mine here with me into it as well, and another is down to play when we get back state-side.
Krowe
2011-08-17, 01:26 PM
Taylor Krowe. Trying to get my skills set for it though.
xmodum
2011-08-17, 01:32 PM
Alright added you. So much new stuff it's hard to comprehend it all haha. Just rolling through security missions with my buddy while we train skills.
Baneblade
2011-08-17, 04:10 PM
Nobody cared me about how EVE was going than myself. But the direction it was going left nothing for me.
xmodum
2011-08-17, 04:14 PM
I think the combination of Dust 514 and EVE is a pretty cool idea, overall the main compass of the game I haven't figured out yet, but I'm liking what I'm seeing so far.
Baneblade
2011-08-17, 06:25 PM
It is an intriguing idea, but I'm sure Sony will find a way to muck it up.
xmodum
2011-08-17, 06:44 PM
I didn't know Sony had anyhthing to do with this game, thought it was all CCP?
Hamma
2011-08-17, 06:47 PM
It's a Playstation Exclusive. :D
xmodum
2011-08-17, 06:48 PM
I thought it was gonna be an xbox game! GAHH!
xmodum
2011-08-17, 09:36 PM
So Peacemaker, I see my original character Xmodum has been in a noob corp for 3 years, still using him? I'd love to have him back xD
Baneblade
2011-08-18, 02:21 AM
I thought it was gonna be an xbox game! GAHH!
Microsoft gave the middle finger to cross platform. It was very Apple of them.
xmodum
2011-08-18, 02:28 AM
Oh nice. Haven't kept up with that stuff for a while.
BUGGER
2011-08-19, 11:46 AM
I tried to play again with one of those 5 day retrials and my computer kept crashing trying to create my avatar....I took it as a sign.
exLupo
2011-08-20, 03:11 AM
EVE's fun but I can't take it for too long. I usually get really excited and it carries me for a few months then... just.. eh.
My corp's been in a stupid war for a month and I haven't cared to log in for more than skill clicking. Astrometrics 5 ends the 22nd, not sure what I'll do when I log in to fill the queue. Probably unsubscribe again.
Crator
2011-08-20, 09:39 AM
Microsoft gave the middle finger to cross platform. It was very Apple of them.
Have they? Or are they just watching how that model works out before they attempt it?
Crator
2011-08-20, 09:42 AM
Oh, just noticed, there's an EVE Online sub-forum under General Gaming Discussion.
Tigersmith
2011-08-20, 11:02 AM
im on from time to time. TigersmithV2 is my name on there. I also have 2 other accounts Tigersmith and Tigersmithv3 :D
WarChimp130
2011-08-20, 05:27 PM
I felt like the best part of that game was clicking new skills to train, getting a nice ship together then looking at it. All the background stuff was great. It was the actual game play itself I couldn't stand. I must have spent a solid 2 days flying around and putting together this really solid mining ship and this awesome loaded out Kestrel for mission running, then ran a few missions and got bored. Went and did some mining, got bored. Then some asshole flipped my can, I came back in my Kestrel and got whooped.
Haven't been back since. Screw that game.
Peacemaker
2011-08-20, 08:57 PM
That's because PVP isn't about clicking the buttons to shoot the guns. You gotta actually pilot your ship well to do good. My BIGGEST problem with EVE is that every single fight you end up in is almost ALWAYS stacked against you. You almost never have a situation where one team has 10 ships and another has 11 and the two gangs have a go at it. Its simply too easy to run away in that game till you have 20 guys against 11 ships. Then the other side runs away till THEY have 30 ships. You then have one of three things happen, one team runs away, one team member gets unlucky and its a 30 on 1 gank, or finally big 200 man fleets form and jocky for 6 hours to get a perfect situation that never comes and everyone logs off after night have a fight.
I really wish they found a way to cause people to WANT to fight in smaller groups. Fleet fights are fun, but the chances of surviving are random. Player skill comes down to the Fleet commanders skills combined with being able to warp out in time when your called as a target. Your actions are usually part of a larger whole and less reliant on individual skill (not SP, skill at playing). What I'd love to see is incentive for gangs of 10 or so to engage in battle on a more regular basis, and for those gangs to have limiting factors so that all 10 ships are not the omfgbbqthatass ownage ship of the times. Force players to bring T1 ships using a point system where a certain ship is worth more points and the gangs are limited by a max point spread.
Yes this violates one of the ideals of EVE, that the players can do what they want how they want and in any scale they want. I feel like it would bring more Pew Pew on a more frequent basis that didn't leave you feeling like you dropped the soap in a Russian Max Security, or like that hot girl next door that you've been working on for the past 3 months who turns out to be a worse lay than your hand. It would also provide for noobs in frigs to fight more often in a more active roll, and individual actions would be magnified so that "*YOU* just won that for us" is possible.
Lartnev
2011-08-21, 03:47 AM
My BIGGEST problem with EVE is that every single fight you end up in is almost ALWAYS stacked against you. You almost never have a situation where one team has 10 ships and another has 11 and the two gangs have a go at it. Its simply too easy to run away in that game till you have 20 guys against 11 ships. Then the other side runs away till THEY have 30 ships. You then have one of three things happen, one team runs away, one team member gets unlucky and its a 30 on 1 gank, or finally big 200 man fleets form and jocky for 6 hours to get a perfect situation that never comes and everyone logs off after night have a fight.
I think you're right about it being too easy to run away but by that I mean there's no reason to stay and fight when it's 10 on 11. Even the Art of War talks about using caution against similar strength opponents until you have the upper hand and victory is assured. Great military strategy but lame gameplay. I think all the time ships mean something to players then this is going to happen, it's one of the double edged swords of EVE Online.
Perhaps if corporations and alliances had things which were attackable by small gangs then it'd be worth defending with a small gang until backup arrives... otherwise it won't be there (or won't be yours) before your gang of 30 finally turns up. I've not really paid much attention to the nullsec changes so I don't know if this sort of thing features, but I know it's been brought up in developer conversation a few times in the past.
Crator
2011-08-21, 08:09 AM
If I'm not mistaken, the real fighting is supposed to occur by really big player corporations. That have many people as members with many different roles. If you have this then you can gather enough resources and generate enough equipment to constantly have your fleet in order and attacking other big rival corps all the time. Even then I don't think it's action all the time.
Peacemaker
2011-08-21, 11:51 AM
You'd be surprised. Several people from PSU have played EVE for a long long time. I started back in 03/04 when battleships were as rare as Titans. The wars waged in that game are of an epic scale and when ships start blowing up corps, and alliances make it seem like they have an infinite supply of ships and men to throw into the fray. There's always action to be found if you know where to look.
Nephilimuk
2011-08-21, 01:23 PM
PM me if your ever bored and I can help anyone with Amarr or Caldari standings. I have a 45mil sp alt in a noob corp which i use for isk making.
I don't play much at the moment due to babies and the game is a time sink. But other than PS it is the one game that has kept me hooked for a long long time. Put the time in it is rewarding though my first Titan kill was an epic online moment from planning to execution.
xmodum
2011-08-24, 07:20 AM
Well I got my original character Xmodum back, with Peace's help (Thanks alot mang. 14mill SP not lost hurray!). And went to Otalieto in my Drake to pick up some stuff before moving to Tash-Murkon where my buddy who is new was doing missions, to help him. Well, I forgot about little Aunenen xD Yea, Pirate gank. And podded. Great first 15 minutes back in my character honestly. Got some good hits back on the cruiser but I didn't last long in a PvE fit. It was refreshing.
Then ended up flying through Jita, figured I'd throw a salute out to the thousands in the system for old time sake. Then out of no where some guy sent me a couple bil isk and said "I quit"......
Probably the best first half hour back in the game I could imagine, some PvP, and becoming rich be pure luck. Anyways. Anyone wants to chill and shit I'm just doing missions in Tash-Murkon with my char Xmodum, I'd love to play with some PSU members.
Trying to figure out me and my buds future in the game, He's hooked, we havn't stopped playing for almost a full week now, every spare chance we get we're on mission running or something. In some newbie mining corp helping them out with a war, most are only a few months old. But I wanna get back into null space fun.
Krowe
2011-08-24, 01:47 PM
2 bil ISK?
Wow, I'm jelly.
Baneblade
2011-08-24, 04:21 PM
I gave more than that to a noob who ran away from my Nightmare.
xmodum
2011-08-24, 05:01 PM
Yea I know not much in the long run, but it's helped me a lot t start back up, get a few BS's with good set-ups for missions and stuff. Just sittin in that noob corp till something bigger comes along.
p0intman
2011-08-27, 08:54 AM
A common misconception is that you need a lot of investment capital and ships in order to go out to nullsec.
This is nonsense.
The best time to go out and start learning to live in null is on day 1. Find a corp who will take you in and show you the ropes, and then you will learn to become a trained killer in the harshest area of the game. I've lived in null 90 percent of my gametime and I laugh at goings-on in Empire space.
also, if you're a member of Reddit or Something Awful forums, they have alliances there (Test Alliance Please Ignore and GoonSwarm, respectively). Both are powerhouses that currently live in nullsec and hold a good amount of space together.
Baneblade
2011-08-27, 10:01 AM
I'd recommend finding a W-Space corp as soon as you can. They won't usually take anyone fresh out of the box since they tend to have specific needs, but they can be the pinnacle of the average EVEr's career.
p0intman
2011-08-27, 01:18 PM
I'd recommend finding a W-Space corp as soon as you can. They won't usually take anyone fresh out of the box since they tend to have specific needs, but they can be the pinnacle of the average EVEr's career.
wormhole life consists of sitting in safespots or at starbases cloaked, sometimes for days if you don't have the crew required to run sits or if theres nothing to do. it can be boring and exciting at the same time
Baneblade
2011-08-27, 03:22 PM
That depends entirely upon you and the corp you are in. I never had a dull moment in W-Space.
p0intman
2011-08-28, 12:07 AM
That depends entirely upon you and the corp you are in. I never had a dull moment in W-Space.
Likewises never had a dull moment in nullsec. Depends on where you find yourself, what you enjoy doing, and who you roll around with, honestly.
exLupo
2011-08-28, 12:20 AM
That depends entirely upon you and the corp you are in. I never had a dull moment in W-Space.
With the exception of the time we opened a neighbor hole into AHARM's home, there isn't much going on in ours. Ton of people but never any action. :/
p0intman
2011-09-01, 10:42 AM
I'll be honest: I fly a Titan. It isnt all its cracked up to be, and the income required to sustain such a pilot and ship is pretty massive. I have to have at least one pos to park it in and another titan pilot to hold it for when I need to get out and fly other stuff in addition to cyno alts. This is a minimum of two billion isk a month required and it only goes up from there. Having to freighter fuel to my own staging point, and product back to trade hubs...
I'm kinda miffed at people screaming to nerf supercaps when they don't fully understand the logistics that need to go into it to sustain just one of them, nevermind a whole lot of them.
Edit: feel free to speculate as to which alliance I'm apart of. Truth is, I probably wouldn't tell anyone even if you guessed correctly.
Hamma
2011-09-01, 10:56 AM
Sounds like a pain in the ass :lol:
p0intman
2011-09-01, 11:08 AM
Sounds like a pain in the ass :lol:
vvy
I doubt most people that fly anything less than supercaps would actually be able to keep themselves afloat when your ship is pretty much a giant "SHOOT ME, I AM A SHINY KILLMAIL FOR YOU" target and you go through having to keep excel sheets to figure out how best to make money, and you have to keep seperate schedules according to when your staging pos needs refueling for the next couple of months.
The occassional random attack by various alliances due to the above comment of being shiny. So having to occassionaly replace starbases with factional starbases to create dickstars (essentially unkillable starbases unless you have a fairly massive amount of firepower. they have obscene defenses lol) and fuel and ammo for THOSE.
the truth is that almost every titan and supercap is known, tracked and recorded by each major alliance.
if you dont know what the fuck you're doing, you really don't deserve to fly one or be trying to kill one.
Baneblade
2011-09-01, 08:48 PM
I got as far as buying the Amarr Titan Skillbook.
WarChimp130
2011-09-02, 10:45 AM
See, that's the thing for me. The concept is just too awesome, but the execution is a god awful time sink. I just don't have the time to commit to that level of gaming anymore. It's just more trouble than it's worth.
PrISM
2011-09-05, 09:52 AM
This is an accurate assessment of the game. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/208-Eve-Online)
Hamma
2011-09-05, 11:11 AM
:rofl:
p0intman
2011-09-07, 11:24 PM
Idiots are often the first victims in EVE:
http://www.phaserinc.com/index1.html
For comparison, one month of gametime paid via plex costs 300 million isk
1 trillion divided by 300 million comes out to around 277 years of gametime paid permanently.
in other words, both of them can play for free for basically the rest of their natural lives, and will likely never need to spend a single dollar on EVE ever again.
Baneblade
2011-09-08, 02:17 AM
That isn't the link you are searching for.
Hamma
2011-09-08, 08:31 AM
Yea :lol: I was like what the heck?
p0intman
2011-09-08, 11:42 AM
fuck, sorry, i passed out about a min after that post.
tired mind was tired.
http://www.phaserinc.com/index1.html
there you go.
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