View Full Version : Improvement: Cloaker Mobility: Hoverboards!
Traak
2011-10-29, 01:25 PM
How about we make it so cloakers can have an invisible surfboard to ride around on?
Beats the wraith by a mile in coolness factor, while not imbalancing the game any more than a wraith would. If some of the more powered-up ideas that follow were used, then it would be more powerful than a wraith. I don't know if people would like it or not.
And, you shoot the cloaker, you damage the cloaker. If, somehow you shoot the board, the board takes damage.
Board has a small jet on the back mounted in a tail, sort of like the L1011 TriStar, and only shows up if afterburner is being used.
Also, hover-glides over mines without tripping them if it is at a low enough speed, and there are no MAS's around. However, one bit of damage to the board or player, and instant mine-magnet. In fact, anything but crouching on the board and slowly slipping by makes it detectable. No weapon drawing while on it, in fact, no drawing of anything other than maybe binoculars. If you want to draw your pistol, you have to step off.
Surfboard can be stuck in the dirt like a board in the sand on Maui.
Cowabunga!
This would be way simpler to code than the ATV, I would think. Imagine the cool of being able to hop on your hoverboard and skate around the place, do jumps, tricks, flips, whatever.
Same function as a wraith, with a few things added for fun riding experience, without imbalancing anything with a super advantage.
Makes cloakers good at the thing they should be good at: recon.
Can travel on water, but leaves a gigantic wake visible from a very long distance. Think Unlimited Hydroplane rooster-tails.
Imagine the chase scenes, as you follow another cloaker at maximum speed, over hill, dale, forests, through CY's, wow.
Imagine how fun it would be to watch people run into your board jammed into the dirt. That alone would be fun to watch, especially with the PS2 DL on.
Xyntech
2011-10-30, 08:34 AM
If you want to draw your pistol, you have to step off.
Don't you EVEN try drawin' dat pistol on me, you BEST step off.
ATV's are already confirmed to be in the game though. Higby said he would look into the possibility of giving ATV's a cloaking module.
Traak
2011-10-30, 08:50 AM
Surfing over the landscape would be WAY cooler, WAY more fun, AND wouldn't cost anything or add anything as far as gameplay, vulnerability, or anything else.
Bring on the Cloakerboard!
Xyntech
2011-10-30, 09:04 AM
Only for the VS. We have dibs on all hover tech.
Raka Maru
2011-10-30, 01:10 PM
Only for the VS. We have dibs on all hover tech.
TR will have rockets rather than anti-grav tech.
Geist
2011-10-30, 01:14 PM
TR will have rockets rather than anti-grav tech.
Sounds about right. :lol:
Traak
2011-10-30, 01:35 PM
And the NC? the Vanboard? Clanking along stealthily...
Traak
2011-10-30, 01:37 PM
If the hoverboard allowed us to farm others, then run away, and only take damage to the hoverboard, and bail, while still firing as it rams into the enemy and explodes...
Then it would be just another Mosquito.
So. No firing from the Gravboard, Vanboard, or Rocketboard.
And, the special edition for Americans: the Waterboard.
Traak
2011-10-30, 01:44 PM
Don't you EVEN try drawin' dat pistol on me, you BEST step off.
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Xaine
2011-10-30, 01:47 PM
This is not Planetside: Rise of the Silver Cloaker.
I feel its going a little bit too far into the realms of 'Hey, lets add shit because it would be fun'.
Planetside has always been science fiction with a good foot still in the reality door, i feel hover boards would probably shut that door.
It reminds me of WoW in Vanilla, when it used to take itself seriously - and now each expantion is just another chance to throw in a load of pop culture references.
Thats just my view anyway :).
Traak
2011-10-30, 01:50 PM
I feel its going a little bit too far into the realms of 'Hey, lets add shit because it would be fun'.
By your logic, there wouldn't be any game at all. The game is supposed to be fun. I mean, not just for pilot/bailures, but for others, too.
Raka Maru
2011-10-30, 03:34 PM
And we should be able to grab someone and drop them to their deaths!!! :D
Raka Maru
2011-10-30, 03:42 PM
If the hoverboard allowed us to farm others, then run away, and only take damage to the hoverboard, and bail, while still firing as it rams into the enemy and explodes...
Then it would be just another Mosquito.
So. No firing from the Gravboard, Vanboard, or Rocketboard.
And, the special edition for Americans: the Waterboard.
Why? Every combat vehicle can shoot/run except for stealthers. Shooting at Stealther should hit Stealther, position revealed after first shot. Pistols don't do much damage at distance anyways. It should kick up dust when in close so the cloaker will have to dismount when trying to empty a clip into someone.
These are just concept/wish list ideas.
Xaine
2011-10-30, 04:40 PM
By your logic, there wouldn't be any game at all. The game is supposed to be fun. I mean, not just for pilot/bailures, but for others, too.
Wow. Really?
By my logic, of wanting to keep the game reasonably realistic by keeping out hovering skateboards, you took that logic as 'I want to stomp out all the fun in the game, to the extent where there is no game at alll'.
Come on, i've seen you post before. You're not that stupid.
So lets try this again. I don't think that hover boards have a place on the battlefield next to Tanks, ATVs and Fighter Jets. If you want to put something into the game because its cool just for the lulz, then where do you stop? Why don't we add funny hats depending on what holiday we're closest too, or in the winter time everyone looks like a snowman and instead of firing bullets we fire snowballs.
Slippery slope.
Traak
2011-10-30, 08:20 PM
I feel its going a little bit too far into the realms of 'Hey, lets add shit because it would be fun'.
As I said, why else should stuff be in the game? How would this make the game worse? It is supposed to be high-tech and futuristic. ATV's could have been invented in the 1930's. They aren't exactly high-tech or futuristic.
Having this would make cloaking more fun without detracting, in any way, from any other part of the game.
Pilots get hovering planes, planes, that is, that can hover at any altitude. This thing would only be able to be within a foot of the ground or water, so it is terrain-limited.
Even present-day special forces ride a wide variety of things that are fun things to ride.
I don't see why this would be bad. I just like the idea of standing and travelling, not sitting on an ATV. This would be cool.
Xyntech
2011-10-30, 10:48 PM
I'd rather see some well made, futuristic, empire specific motor bikes added than hoverboards. Much cooler than ATV's and hoverboards.
Hoverboards are fun, but would seem kind of silly in a battlefield.
Again, ATV's are already in and cloaking modules for them are likely. Despite taking little work, this idea would still take more work than just adding cloaking to ATV's which seem much more Planetsidey. I'd rather they spent their time and effort on something else. Something like cloaker-head seaking sniper bullets that I can fire from inside my ES fighter. ;)
Traak
2011-10-31, 01:10 AM
Now, empire motorcycles would be cool.
TR: The Geronimo (It howls)
NC: The Hog (Deep grunt)
VS: The Sake (Rice Whine)
Tikuto
2011-10-31, 06:31 AM
How weird is this... I dreamed of myself being on a hoverboard last night. It was so damn awesome!
I was going uphill on a mission in some socially-inhibited forest zone planting drugs or something in a bush. I then sped down the hill and woke up lol.
I must say....hoverboards will be awesome.
CrystalViolet
2011-10-31, 12:05 PM
I just like the idea of standing and travelling, not sitting on an ATV. This would be cool.
How about cloaked Segways? :p
Seriously though, the idea of something like a hoverboard in PS just seems a bit too ridiculous. I'm picturing stoned looking infiltrators doing 50/50's on base wall rails while slamming mountain due.
"It's the cops brah, cloak that blunt!"
Xyntech
2011-10-31, 12:57 PM
I want skiing from Tribes. We have pseudo jet packs in PS2, now all we need are some glitchy jumping/landing mechanics.
Traak
2011-10-31, 01:55 PM
NC: Rise of the Silver Smurfer.
I don't think hoverboards will be a bad thing at all. No more ridiculous than a hovering, 60-ton tank. I mean, talk about ridiculous...
Xyntech
2011-10-31, 02:27 PM
No, a 60-ton hover tank isn't more ridiculous, although it is equally unrealistic.
Hoverboards, especially in a battlefield environment, are certainly more ridiculous.
FIREk
2011-10-31, 07:00 PM
While hoverboards of any type (with anti-grav tech, propellers or whatever) don't fit PS2 in any way, they were one of the best things to have ever been implemented in any game. :)
Xaine
2011-11-01, 07:03 AM
I feel that motorbikes are a little closer to the mark actually, the kind in Tron would be sort of cool for cloakers and a little more fitting :P
Talek Krell
2011-11-02, 07:28 PM
You mean the ones that glow in neon colors? >_>
Traak
2011-11-02, 11:31 PM
Actually, yeah, that would be cool if they were crazy colors when uncloaked.
I still think hoverboards would be the perfect cloaker transport.
It 'seeming silly' is obviously just one person's opinion, too. Have you seen the uniforms? Speaking of "seeming silly".
No, hoverboards are not silly at all, for Planetside. What is silly is having fully-armed Heavy Assault guys being able to fly a plane then drop from it. That is beyond silly, that is stupid.
Hoverboards, on the other hand, fit right in with the high technology sneaks that cloakers are.
Zulthus
2011-11-02, 11:39 PM
Only VS would get hoverboards. TR can get skateboards and NC can get... scooters.
Traak
2011-11-03, 04:42 AM
But bad-looking Vespa scooters. With Combat Handlebars of Machoness.
CutterJohn
2011-11-03, 11:32 AM
Wouldn't mind a different vehicle. ATVs strike me as just too low tech for a cloaked vehicle. But a hoverboard is retarded. Some sleek, low profile hovering ATV would be fine imo. Something reminiscent of a crotch rocket.
Chaff
2011-11-03, 12:17 PM
How weird is this... I dreamed of myself being on a hoverboard last night. It was so damn awesome!
I was going uphill on a mission in some socially-inhibited forest zone planting drugs or something in a bush. I then sped down the hill and woke up lol.
I must say....hoverboards will be awesome.
:eek:
Very weird. But, based on your AV, not surprising.
On a serious note. Hoverboard was a little too Michael J Fox for me - but now it's growing on me. I have the image of a giant rooser tail shooting across the surface of any water (from an earlier post) that I can't shake.
Imagine a bridge fight - and on BOTH sides you see giant rooster tails appearing out of nowhere - shooting across the waters surface - indicating INFILTRATORS are afoot....kinda adds another cool visual element to the mayhem.
NOTE: Hoverboards can only cross water at speed Level-10....so, there is NO WAY you can't see signs of their presence (moving over water).....this kind of makes a game out of guys trying to camp Hoverboards crossing water - vs INFILTRATORS trying to avoid bullets....while speed crossing H20.
ALSO: Hoverboards can RAM each other. If your Hoverboard can manage to hit another INFILTRATOR at a right angle - at speed Level-10 - you earn a KILL.
...getting hit while on a Hoverboard - by ANY vehicle - coming at you from ANY angle - is certain death (duh).
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I'm left with one thought on Hoverboard idea. WHY NOT ?
:groovy:
Big J Money
2011-11-03, 12:30 PM
I second the idea of motorcycles (tron bikes for vanu...) over hoverboards.
As long as it requires a skill slot to use, and you must get it from a vehicle terminal.
Way cooler than the stealth quad. Nuff said. Also less memory for the animation because it can be completely still. Hoverboard would require a balancing animation, and you'd look dumb if you get shot and remain on the board.
Chaff
2011-11-03, 12:54 PM
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....howzabout Hoverboots ?
I'm feeling stuck on the Hoverboard idea - seems more "cloakerish".
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Raka Maru
2011-11-04, 02:18 AM
At speed level 4+ they start showing...
TR = Rocket flames
NC = Smoke
VS = Rings
Traak
2011-11-04, 02:37 AM
VS = Rings
Like this?
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Raka Maru
2011-11-04, 03:12 AM
Like this?
The Jetsons Intro - YouTube
Yes, exactly! :D
Talek Krell
2011-11-04, 10:42 PM
I feel that this idea sounds pants on head retarded. Personal opinion. Just visually, I mean. Like future warfare as imagine by an 8 year old on a candy high. Not taking any balance considerations into account.
Xyntech
2011-11-04, 11:11 PM
Mechs are equally retarded from a realism perspective as well as from a balance perspective (to be fair, I think you could find a balanced niche for both mechs and hoverboards, but you would have to try harder than is probably worth it). On the other hand, as silly as mechs are, I feel like they would still be less silly in a battlefield situation than hoverboards would be.
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