I'm happy to report: Tribes Ascend doesn't look that great

[LZachariah]

I've been watching some beta footage of Tribes: Ascend, and it doesn't look very good. It actually looks to be around the Global Agenda level of entertainment. It's limited to matches (which immediately makes it feel less of a "war" and more of a "sport") and is actually a little bit fast-and-wacky looking with those skiing jetpacks that they use.

The reason I bring this up, is because this game seems like the only possibly-big-ticket-game of 2012 that MIGHT be in the same contender-ring as Planetside 2. Therefore, it's good news that honestly, the game looks kind of "blah." It's not that I wish bad things on them, merely that I am wishing AMAZING things for Planetside 2 :)

Thoughts?

~Zachariah

[Graywolves]

Auraxis is our Mount Olympus and we are its Gods. There is no contender.

[DayOne]

Tribes: Ascend is a brilliant game and hopefully one that will really stand out as a truly decent PC FPS. PS2 is a MUCH MUCH MUCH different game. Although both FPS's Planetside is about the big consistent world that is ever changing and player based, focusing on feeling more like a real war in the future.

Tribes is a completely different kettle of fish. It's a fast paced, arcade style shooter with completely different game play to Planetside.

You cannot compare the two.

[Hmr85]

Having played in the Beta Test for Tribes Ascend I can tell you it will not even hold a candle to PS2. I wouldn't even worry about it.

Maps are way to small. To few deployable's and so on. The speed of the game to me at least feels slower than the previous tribes. Also 32 players... But to each their own.

Edit: Also what the poster above me said. Both completely different games.

[Coreldan]

I played it once, never started it up again. It's not a bad game, but it's so vastly different with PS/PS2 that they dont really even share the playerbase, except the scifi nerds who dont care as long as you got weapons firign lazers.

[LZachariah]

Yeah, I'm happy to hear that it won't, like "crash and burn." The economy is so wretched at this point, I want all game companies to have success. But I'm very encouraged to hear that people at PSU don't think it will derail any of Planetside's possible fanbase (as it's already in beta, so it's potentially launching sooner, etc).

[ArmedZealot]

Tribes Ascend is a great game, but it's a completely different audience. I can give you a beta key if you want to actually play the game instead of using youtube videos to justify your preconcieved biased opinion.

Planeteside 2 is a game that can run along with serious Tribes players and aren't mutually exclusive since both are F2P.

[CutterJohn]

I detect much fanboyism in this thread.

[LZachariah]

Using the phrase "preconceived biased opinion" sounds a little aggressive. I was pretty clear when I primarily used phrases such as "it looks like" and "seems like." I hear a little defense in your tone, and if I've offended you as a Tribes player, that wasn't my intention. In my post, I shared that I was not very impressed with the Tribes footage that I saw, and then, in a subsequent post, I wrote that I hope they have success, only that it DOESn't detract from Planetside 2's success. I'm not hurt at hearing your slight rise of defense, so I'm surely not going to challenge anyone about anything, and I'll let this sub-topic die here, but just reread my posts and you'll see that I'm not doing anything except disclosing my own personal relief that Tribes probably won't step on Planetside 2's toes.

[LZachariah]

(and btw- it is very generous of you to offer me a beta key :) Since I'm working on my dissertation at the moment, I should probably decline, but thank you so much for the offer :) )

[Coreldan]

Using the phrase "preconceived biased opinion" sounds a little aggressive. I was pretty clear when I primarily used phrases such as "it looks like" and "seems like." I hear a little defense in your tone, and if I've offended you as a Tribes player, that wasn't my intention. In my post, I shared that I was not very impressed with the Tribes footage that I saw, and then, in a subsequent post, I wrote that I hope they have success, only that it DOESn't detract from Planetside 2's success. I'm not hurt at hearing your slight rise of defense, so I'm surely not going to challenge anyone about anything, and I'll let this sub-topic die here, but just reread my posts and you'll see that I'm not doing anything except disclosing my own personal relief that Tribes probably won't step on Planetside 2's toes.

Don't mind that. I think you handled the situation well, as in you didnt imply they are facts and they just "look like" etc, but he is also right that if you have not even played the game, you probably shouldnt even try to report anything about the state of the game.

But more on topic, T:A is much like TF2 for me. Download all day, play once, delete. :D

[LZachariah]

Haha, I hear you, Coreldan. Yeah, I was just tossing in my opinion about seeing the game footage. And actually, I really enjoyed TF2, though it didn't hold my interest for more than like, 2 weeks. Planetside 2 shall smoke them all o.O

[Elude]

Tribes Ascend is awesome, it's suppose to be more sporty than war like!

If you we're looking for a contender you found the wrong game to compare Planetside with. Battlefield 3 is a hell of a lot closer to Planetside than Tribes Ascend is, Tribes is leaning more towards the family of arena based shooters like Quake, and UT.

What draws people to this comparison anyway? Tribes as never ever even attempted to be similar to Planetside!

[Coreldan]

What draws people to this comparison anyway? Tribes as never ever even attempted to be similar to Planetside!

I guess it's the same reason Planetside is a...


















...Halo ripoff

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eaKbvlcIK10/TQbpX0yx6UI/AAAAAAAAJ6k/_CCDn9Vo-aY/s400/csi%2Bmiami%2Byeah%2B%2528net%2529.jpg


And no, not serious.

[LZachariah]

Bahahahahah :D

The pause made it perfect.

[frigamache]

Tribes Ascend is pretty fun, but I hate how one class / weapon seems to dominate the gameplay. Everything that is not wielding a spinfuzor seems to just fill a niche role of sorts.

Hard core fanboyism though, we are apparently only allowed to enjoy one thing and one thing only. NO HAVING FUN UNTIL PS2 LAUNCHES U GUYS

[FIREk]

All you nabs hating on Tribes: Ascend don't know nuthin' :p

It's an awesome game, the way they captured the oldschool feel of Tribes 2, while at the same time complicating the weapons and classes to accommodate microtransactions, is incredible. 32 players is just right for the size of the map (otherwise there would be too much spam), so that's not a disadvantage. The maps are just big enough for each gameplay mode. The game is simply perfect at what it does. That being said, I stopped playing after a few weeks, but that's mostly due to my personal life (most of my friends play BF3:p).

While Tribes: Ascend is the perfect Tribes game, each title (TA and PS2) targets completely different audiences (with TA targeting skilled players;)), and the only commonalities are that both are FPS games and both have vehicles. Everything else is completely different. Therefore TA is no threat to PS2. PS2 is a threat to TA, however, since it targets a much wider audience.

If they end up making Tribes Universe after they release Ascend, that's a different story.

[super pretendo]

I'm playing the beta of Tribes: Ascend, and it's definitely a fun and unique shooter, but I am still waiting on PS2, which I would probably mostly abandon tribes for. But tribes is not a game that would even cut into planetside's playerbase.

[bjorntju1]

You can't really compare Tribes and Planetside 2 together.

I never really played a Tribes game before (only Venegance) but I am in the Tribes Ascend beta and I really like it.

But why not try the beta for yourself before you say that the game looks kind of 'blah'? There are over 1600 keys available here: http://www.alienwarearena.com/giveaway/tribes-ascend-closed-beta-key-awa-giveaway/ Even if you don't like the gameplay on youtube. Maybe you do like how it plays. It didn't seem very fun to me too when I saw some gameplay/trailers. But I really like it :)

[Oryon22]

Got a beta invite and was completely uninterested.

[Tikuto]

Firefall is also shit.

:wantbeta:

[Infektion]

Tribes ascend doesn't look great? lol I think it captures that feeling I had when I played tribes 2, and that's how I want to feel when I try planetside 2. The games are entirely different but the feeling of playing a sequel that makes you feel that awesome feeling of "new" is what I believe everyone wants. They want to fall in love again. But comparing videos is ridiculous, planetside videos are crap, but the game play is what made the game. Tribes ascend videos are pretty sweet, and the actual gameplay is fantastic, plus it's still in closed beta and I've seen that game change quite a bit within the 3 months I've been testing it.

[basti]

You are comparing the wrong games here. Tribes Ascend is ment to be a small scale multiplayer.

The game we need to look out for is called Tribes Universe. Thats ment to be the MMO tribes. But that one is years away still, if it ever hits.

[Lonehunter]

this game seems like the only possibly-big-ticket-game of 2012 that MIGHT be in the same contender-ring as Planetside 2.

Planetside and Tribes are so different they barely fit in the same category. Firefall would probably be the closest thing to get in the ring with PS2.

I don't think anyone has played Tribes through the years for graphics, when each was released, it was just never "top of the line" graphics.

It's still the fastest paced FPS you can find

[FreedomShot]

Tribes is utterly pathetic, but what did you expect from the people that brought you Global Agenda......

[SuperMorto]

We shouldn't be slating games, just to make PS2 look better. This should be in general gaming and be feedback about the game.

Naughty naughty people!

[acosmo]

Don't mind that. I think you handled the situation well, as in you didnt imply they are facts and they just "look like" etc, but he is also right that if you have not even played the game, you probably shouldnt even try to report anything about the state of the game.

But more on topic, T:A is much like TF2 for me. Download all day, play once, delete. :D

just like bf3!!!!

[FIREk]

Tribes is utterly pathetic, but what did you expect from the people that brought you Global Agenda......

Looks like someone can't cope in a skill-heavy game. U MAD?

[basti]

Looks like someone can't cope in a skill-heavy game. U MAD?

Seems so.

Anyway, gonna play T:A now. Technical, place 2 turrets, lol at the fools running into them, fix gen and turrets, get Tank, LOL at all the kills.

I love that game. :D

[Arrow]

bleh ill stick to playing Tribes 2 since now itself is f2p as well. www.tribesnext.com. yep people still play and im one of them. No tribes will ever match it.

[Tasorin]

Been playing in the Beta for a while now. Ascend is what it is, a fast paced non-persistent, instanced shooter/frag fest. I personally like Tribes and skiing, and it is good practice for PlanetSide 2. If you can put rounds on the hit box when someone is skiing in the opposite direction of you and elevates with jump jets on the Z-Axis, and you can still lead the target and score hits, then you are ready for PS2. Really any twitch shooter is good practice, but I personally don't like the current iterations of Battlefield or CoD.

I do like how you can build up a Profession load out with profession skill points and build a better mouse trap out of the Ranger. If you are going to play this game for any length of time, it is worth it to get a VIP account and maximize your points earned per hour ratio.


Hit Scan + AoE = Win in TA

[Sirisian]

I've been watching some beta footage of Tribes: Ascend
:huh: Here's a secret. Grab a beta key from here (http://www.alienwarearena.com/giveaway/tribes-ascend-closed-beta-key-awa-giveaway/3/) and actually play the game instead of sounding like a complete troll.

Speaking of troll as mentioned earlier Tribes Ascend is just a multiplayer game. Why you would even compare its gameplay against PS2 is mind boggling. Tribes Universe is the MMO, not Tribes Ascend.

Tribes ascend is not a heavy skill game. It relies mostly on your target following it's current course over the duration of about 2-3 seconds before your round hits them.
Wow you are going to hate Planetside 2 then. If you watch the videos it's all about putting a cursor on a player and holding the trigger with no lead time. :lol:

The whole idea with Tribes is that the skill comes from experience and landing shots with 2-3 second lead times. If you want a more skill worthy class pick up the Juggernaut since it requires insanely long lead times and general map knowledge to predict a persons position over long distances. Nothing feels better than seeing the capper grab the flag then launch a grenade 300 meters in front of them for the kill. Then again I'm only slightly better than average. In the pub servers I've been holding a 2.5 k/d. It's surprisingly easy to find people that aren't good in Tribes Ascend. I can use the pathfinder class and strafe around a player without shooting them while they literally waste all their ammo since you can predict when people will fire and react. It's a level of skill we probably won't see in Planetside 2. However, that's a good thing since Tribes has almost no teamwork because of the fast paced e-sport like gameplay.

Also if I had to rate it though I'd say a 7/10. I got bored a week ago. This isn't the games fault so much as I don't like to play games in a round fashion over and over with a reset. This applies to most multiplayer games that I get bored with after a few weeks.

[SKYeXile]

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT, let me get this straight...people thought that a game made by hi res would be good?...after global agenda?

[NCLynx]

I don't see how it was ever going to compete with PS2 in the first place. The 2 games are to different.

[basti]

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT, let me get this straight...people thought that a game made by hi res would be good?...after global agenda?

T:A is quite good, given its STILL IN BETA and the fact that its completly different to Planetside. Its very fast paced, i enjoy that.

[psimonk]

I agree 100% with Sirisian. I have a blast playing T:A, even if it doesn't quite live up to my love of T2. It has probably the highest skill ceiling of any shooter on the market, including when PS2 comes out. Yet I'm still looking forward to PS2 and Tribes: Universe whenever they make it. I never understand the people that feel the need to bash other games to make them feel better about their chosen fanboyism. Also, the hate for Hi-rez in general is unfounded. I wasn't a big fan of global agenda but it was a perfectly adequate game. People just had preconceived notions about it being an MMOFPS like planetside which leads to hate.

[SKYeXile]

I agree 100% with Sirisian. I have a blast playing T:A, even if it doesn't quite live up to my love of T2. It has probably the highest skill ceiling of any shooter on the market, including when PS2 comes out. Yet I'm still looking forward to PS2 and Tribes: Universe whenever they make it. I never understand the people that feel the need to bash other games to make them feel better about their chosen fanboyism. Also, the hate for Hi-rez in general is unfounded. I wasn't a big fan of global agenda but it was a perfectly adequate game. People just had preconceived notions about it being an MMOFPS like planetside which leads to hate.

its not unfounded, they cant code netcode for an "MMO," they used stock unreal netcode...for an arena shooter with US centralalised servers, it plays like ass for anything with over 50ms. maybe a typical shooter is more in their ballpark.

[psimonk]

its not unfounded, they cant code netcode for an "MMO," they used stock unreal netcode...for an arena shooter with US centralalised servers, it plays like ass for anything with over 50ms. maybe a typical shooter is more in their ballpark.

That's a single aspect of the game, if you want to condemn the whole game, let alone the whole company, based on that one aspect then I suppose that's your choice.

A typical shooter like...Tribes: Ascend maybe? Isn't that exactly in their ballpark as you described it then? Why again should we dismiss it? :D:D

[SKYeXile]

That's a single aspect of the game, if you want to condemn the whole game, let alone the whole company, based on that one aspect then I suppose that's your choice.

A typical shooter like...Tribes: Ascend maybe? Isn't that exactly in their ballpark as you described it then? Why again should we dismiss it? :D:D

yea...the game play is sorta a large single aspect of the game ...been a shooter and all...and yes..i just said a typical shooter might be more in their ballpark(eg:TA) im sure they'll still find a way to fuck it up though, maybe it will be a broken cash shop and F2P model this time?

[NivexQ]

Methinks you're confusing Tribes Ascend with Tribes Universe

Tribes Ascend was never competition for Planetside 2. Tribes Universe is the mmofps that will be the competition.

[Bittermen]

I've been watching some beta footage of Tribes: Ascend, and it doesn't look very good. It actually looks to be around the Global Agenda level of entertainment. It's limited to matches (which immediately makes it feel less of a "war" and more of a "sport") and is actually a little bit fast-and-wacky looking with those skiing jetpacks that they use.

The reason I bring this up, is because this game seems like the only possibly-big-ticket-game of 2012 that MIGHT be in the same contender-ring as Planetside 2. Therefore, it's good news that honestly, the game looks kind of "blah." It's not that I wish bad things on them, merely that I am wishing AMAZING things for Planetside 2 :)

Thoughts?

~Zachariah

Thoughts is Tribes Ascend is a great E-sports title. Pulled me away from Battlefield.

[Brusi]

I expect that tribes universe will never come to pass, based on hi-rez's previous record with promises for global agenda and as Skyexile mentioned, the terrible netcode. Don't get me wrong, I love hi-rez! Played the shit out of GA, even assault class with 300 ping, and I think their tribes game is brilliant! Just if you can't design net code that gives a similar experience for all users, regardless of global location... Then you will only be left with an MO.


According to SOE, Forgelight is good enough to make this a real MMO.

At least hi-rez have PAC servers for tribes:ascend lol

[Elude]

Tribes Ascend definitely uses some form of fake client side hit detection, it most definitely tries to simulate zero ping unlike older UE3 games like UT3 or Gears of War. Both of those games required that you lead your target if you had even 30 ping with hitscan guns, where as in Tribes Ascend you don't have to lead at all with over 100 ping while using a hitscan weapon.

This doesn't necessarily mean Skyexile is wrong though, I highly doubt hi-rez recreated the netcode form the ground up but they did most certainly touch it up.

[SKYeXile]

I expect that tribes universe will never come to pass, based on hi-rez's previous record with promises for global agenda and as Skyexile mentioned, the terrible netcode. Don't get me wrong, I love hi-rez! Played the shit out of GA, even assault class with 300 ping, and I think their tribes game is brilliant! Just if you can't design net code that gives a similar experience for all users, regardless of global location... Then you will only be left with an MO.


According to SOE, Forgelight is good enough to make this a real MMO.

At least hi-rez have PAC servers for tribes:ascend lol

F that in the A.

[Atuday]

In the beta and compared to what we have seen of PS2 there is no comparison. Tribes2 was great back then. The new tribes is ok. Compared to what we will see in the next 6 months from planetside2 and what we have seen so far I have no fear planetside2 will crush the competition.

[Brusi]

F that in the A.

Not saying it's easy ;p

[Baneblade]

I think some of you have the wrong attitude... we WANT PS2 to have real competition, because we want SOE to actually give a damn about developing it passed the first year.

[VioletZero]

You're happy to report that another game looks bad?

Why would you want another game to be bad? We could always use more good games. And more good games makes the already good games even gooder!