Planetside-Stats.com - Any ideas anyone?

[Kipper]

So I set up this website and put in some 'what we know' content on vehicles and weapons.

Since nobody yet knows what sort of stats they're going to put out or when that might be - I'm looking for ideas on how to move the website forward whilst we're all waiting.

Has anyone got any thoughts?

Couple of ideas from me:

1. Ability to sign up and log in ready to access your personal data when it becomes available - who'd use that? (Logging in would add your name to your empire roster if nothing else)

2. (In addition to 1.) ability to create your outfits, join outfits that have been created, do some basic outfit management and get your own 'page' ready (like my other site potbs-companion.net with 'societies' in that game). Would anyone use that right now? What would go on an outfit page until stats are out?

3. Forum banners to show off your allegiance or just push PS2 on other forums you use - again, can't add any dynamic stats or anything yet. Would anyone use those? Is anyone artistically minded enough to help me do the artwork? (I'm a developer/coder, not a crayon-wielder).

Anything else while we're waiting?

[NCLynx]

http://static.ow.ly/photos/original/uLkc.jpg

I'd say go Kills, Deaths, Revenges, Dominations, and Facilities Captured. Also I liked all 3 ideas of yours.

[Biohazard]

In order Yes, Meh, YES! Possibly off topic but, I wish they would add "Average base capture time", and "Longest base defense" to the stats list.

[NewSith]

Loadouts?

[Kipper]

I can't yet put any info on there that we don't know.... I'll no doubt come asking what everyone wants out of the stats/game data when the stats/game data becomes available and we know what they're publishing and what they're not.

Right now I'm looking for stuff that I can put in - that people would get some use from - that doesn't rely on information we don't have.

[NewSith]

Right now I'm looking for stuff that I can put in - that people would get some use from - that doesn't rely on information we don't have.

In that case, some outfit promotions maybe?

[sylphaen]

It would also be nice to have the stats broken down by class you were playing when that stat happened.

e.g. Tanks destroyed while playing medic would be somewhat rare. Light assault might have different death related ratios than heavy assault due to lower health, etc...


Would be nice to have stats per spawn but total would also be fun:
Healed, repaired, revived friendlies, kills from revived players, kills from deployed turrets, assists, objectives taken, friendly fire damage, friendly fire kills, kills from gunner, kills as driver, kills from passengers who unloaded, stats by weapons, etc...

The more the merrier !

Tracking outfit affilition is fun too. Along with commanders followed by player.

Edit: The 4th empire will hate me but what would have been VERY VERY VERY nice in PS1 if stats could be calculated by account instead of by character:
tracking average population of player's empire when said player is online.

Edit2: doh, I misread your post. Essentially, anything that would help to know a player better would be very good. Being able to save favorite players/outfits would be nice to have. If data can be aggregated from players, it would be nice to create some outfit stats even though it might not be that relevant in some cases.

[WiteBeam]

Any plans on making this an application for the iPhone users? Or at least mobile friendly for quick access on the go? Would love to be able to keep up with the resources, xp and things that continue to grow while we are offline.

[Kipper]

Any plans on making this an application for the iPhone users? Or at least mobile friendly for quick access on the go? Would love to be able to keep up with the resources, xp and things that continue to grow while we are offline.

The deal with that is this - I'd love to. I absolutely adore my iPad/iPhone and my attitude to apps/websites is that I make stuff that I want to use.

I like to think I'm a pretty good web developer, it being what I do for a living and all that - but I have no experience currently writing mobile apps. I do try to make the website mobile friendly but it will never rival a dedicated app.

BUT - I'm trying to learn when I get time. I have a mac, I have the books, I'm working through it (+android too).... but the website is likely to come first because I'm that much more comfortable with doing stuff for that.

I'm open to the idea of contribution though - if you enjoy Planetside & can either write code for web/iOS/android or do arty stuff, and you know what subversion is - then lets talk :)

[Figment]

Strategy/weapon guides, newbee help, with detailed base layouts and walk-throughs for instance.

A history of PlanetSide?

Of course PSU is making a new wiki. Could link up with that.

Could check for ideas here:
http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Main_Page
http://wot-dossier.appspot.com
http://wot-news.com/index.php/stat/compare/eu
http://wot-news.com/

[Hamma]

We will be pushing our wiki quite a bit more with the new site as well.

[EVILPIG]

*EDIT*

[SKYeXile]

Since SOE will be providing full stats, I somehow doubt they will let you get a feed from them, as other site will want it too. This is pure speculation, but I wonder about it being named a "stats" site without the ability to get any. The site looks really nice, but it seems it will be just another source of information?

they have said that they will be providing a stats feed again.

[Kipper]

We will be pushing our wiki quite a bit more with the new site as well.

I'm all about providing dynamic information / tools to inform people on whats going on, so will happily link the static stuff to a PS2 Wiki (or pull content from it) rather than trying to update it all myself.

they have said that they will be providing a stats feed again.

Indeed they have, they were very clear that stats feeds will be made public. Their own stats site will probably provide some fairly standard stuff, and the community will provide the advanced stuff from the official data.

[Kran De Loy]

Should have a stat to track the number of female character models in use. :brow:

[ringring]

Avoid something that someone else is already doing.

e.g. psu wiki - I am imagining this as providing an overview of the continents/mechanics and so forth - itself filling in gaps of the informatthat the SoE Devs provide.

So, how about weapon stats? Effectiveness, ttk, range, accuracy, bulet drop and so on ..... someone will do this but why not you, or rather why not you present the information and you have a team of elves to collect the data?

[Kipper]

So, how about weapon stats? Effectiveness, ttk, range, accuracy, bulet drop and so on .....

Maybe (though this might be more 'wiki' than 'stats', unless its in the feeds) but as of right now - no feeds are available, that data isn't available.

My question was about how to take the site forward now until such time as the data APIs are released which will then decide what live stats can happen based on what the data contains.

So stuff like logins, outfit homepages etc - so that you can (hopefully) log in and add an 'outfit ID' (if its that simple) and the site can populate your outfit homepage with game stats as they happen.

[Coreldan]

I like and support the idea of the outfit pages!

[Kipper]

I like and support the idea of the outfit pages!

And in the absence of stats, for now - what would an outfit page need to contain to be interesting?

Name - Logo/banner - Outfit Twitter feed - that sort of stuff? Management options?

[Coreldan]

Yeah, options for different kind of media (pictures, videos, banner, logos, etc?). Generally speaking the more mangeable and customizable the clan, the better.

For now, you might want to allow for creating outfits that arnt of any specific faction, but naturally also allow listing one's outfit into a faction. I'd be interested in creating a page for my clan, but we havnt decided on a faction yet, which is why I havnt taken any action here on PSU for promoting the clan yet.

I also guess some ability to leave comments on a clans page (manageabily here too, the outfit should be able to turn off leaving comments if they so wish) could be a handy feature.

Also, outfit alliances would be a cool thing. Some alliances from PS1 will probably carry over. That said, perhaps Alliance pages as well where you can search alliances, rather than looking for outfits and then notice they are in an alliance.

Also the outfits should be able to be sorted through region as well (at least EU/NA at the very least, NA probably will be divided into different coasts). Naturally you cant say much about servers at this point, except probably what continent will they be on. Also remember some outfits (such as mine) will operate on several servers/both continents.

[DaSwede]

Having a mobile friendly view of the stats will help with adoption as well.

[Coreldan]

Yes, definitely. While it's probably hard to make sure some of the stuff is mobile friendly cos we don't have access to the true stats yet etc, but I would definitely work towards a mobile friendly site as well.

When I'm on my computer, I actually play. Most of the browsing I actually do on my mobile :D

Also about the outfit stuff ideas, I can help you test it out if needed, also about time I'd do some kind of pre-promotion for my community :D

[Akemo]

EVILPIG - check out the GDC demo part 4 5:07 to 5:46 - link

Planetside 2 - GDC First Gameplay Part 4 - YouTube

edit - Didn't mean to embed that youtube screen. Hopefully it doesn't suck resources from psu! I don't know how to have just the link as text I guess :(

[Figment]

edit - Didn't mean to embed that youtube screen. Hopefully it doesn't suck resources from psu! I don't know how to have just the link as text I guess :(

You are sucking the internet out of Hamma! NoOOOoOOoooOOooOOoo!


:lol:

[Coreldan]

While this isn't so much what can be done now, but I'd hope to see good synergy between PSU and PS2stats. Sort of like a symbiose. PSU could for example "rip" some general stats, perhaps like what faction has most territory on each server, and clicking on the pictures would take you over to ps2stats.

Likewise, PS2stats could support PSU and have the site redirect/link there in some cases.

Sort of individual sites, but with two way supporting.

[Coreldan]

So, when can we start logging in?! :D

[Kipper]

So, when can we start logging in?! :D

Lemme see what my weekend is looking like :)

[Skitrel]

Please remember that your stats page's emphasis will have as much of an influence on player mindsets of those that use it as the in game stats pages will have, and everything we argued with in the stats thread a while back, specifically regarding the emphasis on objective based stat being primary over kills or k:d, is extremely important.

By all means have absolutely everything. Just put the objective stuff front and foremost. Or better yet, go ahead and implement a Score:death just as was argued for over so many posts in the other thread.

And ignore the GDC footage, it's all subject to change afterall.

[Kipper]

I have to ignore everything stats based until I know what the feeds will contain, I expect an individual or outfit page would be customizable for the individual or outfit, to a certain extent.

There will be pages for the servers/continents tho showing who owns what, who took what, when, etc etc. That should be the tactical overview and will focus on objectives.

[Boogster]

Just wanted to say, great looking site.

Also, were you responsible for the original psstats? It was totally invaluable. Thanks.

[Coreldan]

BTW. I like the faction/neutral themes, but it seems by default it shows TR theme?

What is this sorcery?

[Kipper]

BTW. I like the faction/neutral themes, but it seems by default it shows TR theme?

What is this sorcery?

Haha, if you didn't pick a theme yourself at some point - then it just picks a random one for each session :-)

When you pick one, it should save that preference in a cookie for you.

[Coreldan]

Haha, if you didn't pick a theme yourself at some point - then it just picks a random one for each session :-)

When you pick one, it should save that preference in a cookie for you.

The randomizer might not work, as I only had TR for the last few days, but can't say for sure.

Anyways, I'm happy with my blue and yellow :D

[Really]

I'm doing an MSc in Stats and would love to get involved somehow, although I can't really think how right now. Basically if you come up with any ideas for data analysis I'd be very interested in helping!

[megamold]

i love graphs, so i would say the data all needs to be put into awesome looking graphs :D

[Kipper]

i love graphs, so i would say the data all needs to be put into awesome looking graphs :D

I also love a good graph.... to keep it iPad friendly I'll probably be using these beauties:

http://code.google.com/apis/chart/interactive/docs/gallery.html

As opposed to flash based ones.

[megamold]

awesome stuff, i'll have to buy an ipad now :D

[Kipper]

awesome stuff, i'll have to buy an ipad now :D

Lol, well they work on other computers too... but if you get an iPad you'll be able to watch the map change without switching screens in game and risking being shot :P

[megamold]

personally i dont even like ipads :)
but i have a dual screen setup so that will do!

[Kipper]

personally i dont even like ipads :)

Other tablets are available (assuming apple hasn't sued the makers into oblivion!)

[Coreldan]

I dont baseline understand tablets. I mean, it's too big to actually be that mobile, and if I'm dragging something of that size with me, I rather want it with a keyboard.

That said, if/when Nokia comes out with tablet (I'd guess Win 8 on it?), I might be interested, but the price ranges are out of my league :D

[megamold]

I dont baseline understand tablets. I mean, it's too big to actually be that mobile, and if I'm dragging something of that size with me, I rather want it with a keyboard.

That said, if/when Nokia comes out with tablet (I'd guess Win 8 on it?), I might be interested, but the price ranges are out of my league :D

same here, i cant justify the use of the thing vs the cost
i would rather cary my laptop around, atleast i can play some games on my laptop ( i mean REAL games ;) )

and i say ipad, but i really mean tablets in general :)

[Eighm]

3. Forum banners to show off your allegiance or just push PS2 on other forums you use - again, can't add any dynamic stats or anything yet. Would anyone use those? Is anyone artistically minded enough to help me do the artwork? (I'm a developer/coder, not a crayon-wielder).


I could work on these if you tell me what you'd like.

[Kipper]

I dont baseline understand tablets. I mean, it's too big to actually be that mobile, and if I'm dragging something of that size with me, I rather want it with a keyboard.

Personally, I was using a laptop for browsing the web in front of the TV if something caught my interest; the tablet is much better because it doesn't get as hot, isn't as heavy, and is 'on' instantly rather than waiting for boot up or recover from sleep mode.

I also carry it around the house with me, use it for getting recipes if i'm in the kitchen, or song tabs if i'm feeling musical, or catching up on TV programmes on the BBC iPlayer without having to get out of bed on a weekend morning... fantastic little gadget :)

[Kipper]

I could work on these if you tell me what you'd like.

Colorpilot has already said he'll do a couple of banners for me; but it can never hurt to have more choice if you want a couple of designs to the mix.

Once I have the first designs which will show the area needed to be left blank for text to be dynamically inserted, you're welcome to contribute some more if you like. I imagine that outfits will be able to create and upload their own specific ones too.

[megamold]

Personally, I was using a laptop for browsing the web in front of the TV if something caught my interest; the tablet is much better because it doesn't get as hot, isn't as heavy, and is 'on' instantly rather than waiting for boot up or recover from sleep mode.

I also carry it around the house with me, use it for getting recipes if i'm in the kitchen, or song tabs if i'm feeling musical, or catching up on TV programmes on the BBC iPlayer without having to get out of bed on a weekend morning... fantastic little gadget :)

yeah, i geuss i just dont walk around much :lol:

[Coreldan]

Anything cool in the works? :D

[That one noob]

Heat maps. Areas of engagement. Info such as the "Where do I die the most? Who am I fighting the most?" sort of things.

[JediADo]

can't add any dynamic stats or anything yet. Would anyone use those?


Yes.


YES

[Kipper]

I've got the registration and login system in place on my test site, just working on some sort of user profile page so that there's a reason to register and login :-)

It's tricky at the moment since I don't know at all how SOE will present access to stats - will they all be public linked with an account ID? Will they be protected with individual keys etc? Should I allow people to set up their characters ready for the game (and potentially take invalid names) or will SOE data allow people to claim their toons with a key.

I'm thinking it through at the moment but f anyone gets any info, post it up please :-)

[Ait'al]

Just to be funny. Has anyone considered the honor system. :)

[Kipper]

I just set up a facebook page for the site... and ran into a dilemma!

I can only put up one cover photo, we can't trust the factions to share one, and this new FB page needs some "like" action to get it going.

So do your bit for YOUR empire by visiting the page (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Planetside-Stats/321367711265027) and casting your vote. In a few days (probably the weekend), the empire with the most votes gets to own the cover photo for the forseeable future.

PS. Come on, TR :)

[SuperMorto]

I just set up a facebook page for the site... and ran into a dilemma!

I can only put up one cover photo, we can't trust the factions to share one, and this new FB page needs some "like" action to get it going.

So do your bit for YOUR empire by visiting the page (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Planetside-Stats/321367711265027) and casting your vote. In a few days (probably the weekend), the empire with the most votes gets to own the cover photo for the forseeable future.

PS. Come on, TR :)

Just an idea, but I would go for all 3 in 1 image! :)

[Kipper]

Just an idea, but I would go for all 3 in 1 image! :)

Game's not even out yet and you're suggesting some sort of peace treaty? :D

[SuperMorto]

Game's not even out yet and you're suggesting some sort of peace treaty? :D

Pick 1 piss off 2 ;) simple maths :lol:

[iSpectre]

Damn, i'd love to see this take off.
So far the ideas about adding personal stats and outfit stats seem the best, a page for your outfit with the big description, logo, twitter yadda yadda. along with maybe some interesting data at the bottom
"Outfit most killed by, outfit members killed by this outfit"
A kind of rough nemesis system, Could also be useful for comparing your rank on average member kills, average tank kill's, support points etc.

Essentially a page that Outfit leaders can link to and bring awareness of what their outfit offers statistically.


If PSUWiki handles most of the static info, would you be trying to incorporate dynamic info?
Percentage of the world owned by who on say the front page as well as Top killer for the VS, TR, NC.
whilst next to vehicle info boxe's you could add various stats like
Number of Vanguard tanks destroyed
Number of prowlers destroyed with a Reaver
Number of roadkill's with the magrider
etc.

you could easily go overkill on the data being fed across, however whether or not its useful or just insanely nifty is another matter.

[Kipper]

If PSUWiki handles most of the static info, would you be trying to incorporate dynamic info?

I'm all about not re-inventing wheels, PSU has been here a long time and does a great job - so there'll be no forum, and very limited static stuff - just some filler....

The site is all about the dynamic data and maybe some user interaction, so the hope is that there'll be enough of it to do interesting things that SoE won't have done on their own site.

you could easily go overkill on the data being fed across, however whether or not its useful or just insanely nifty is another matter.

I think a good mix of useful and insanely nifty is what I'd be aiming for :groovy: