AT&FX

[cloudj110589]

ok i have a question. my friend says he gets 100kbps off a dial up line by putting AT&FX inside the command line in the modem propertys. so i tried it and it says my speed is like 460.4kbps. BUT, it doesnt lower my ping or speed up my conneection. could someone please help me with this. thanks!

[Rbstr]

yeah 100kbps is not possible with dial up, you can only get 56kbps max out of it

[cloudj110589]

awww that sucks.. everytime i get on it says 460.4kbps.. oh well

[Rbstr]

Sorry that should read 56Kbps(kilobytes), not kbps(kilobits). sorry

or wait mabee not, i forget

[dscytherulez]

Yeah, hes pretty much probably lying. I don't know anything about that parameter except that it's used to fix lucent disconnects, but I can tell you that you can only squeeze so much out of a 56k modem. Reason being is that if you go to high, some data transferring through the line will be lost because it's going too fast.

[cloudj110589]

no, my norm connections at 26.4kbps, but with AT&FX on my command line it says i connect at like 460kbps. but it loads at the speed of 26.4 even though it says its goin 460kbps. i was just wondering

[Phaelon]

56 Kbps = 56 Kilo bits per second - That is fine
56 Kbps = 5.6 KBps - Always make the K large,
b = bits
B = bytes

is your friend using two modems? You could use shotgun technology to get 112 Kbps.

You cannot go faster than 56 Kbps on dial-up. This is a government regulation.

You are messing with Modem init strings there, I would probly not do that unless you are ready to deal with the bit values.

[dscytherulez]

56 Kbps = 56 Kilo bits per second - That is fine
56 Kbps = 5.6 KBps - Always make the K large,
b = bits
B = bytes

is your friend using two modems? You could use shotgun technology to get 112 Kbps.

You cannot go faster than 56 Kbps on dial-up. This is a government regulation.

You are messing with Modem init strings there, I would probly not do that unless you are ready to deal with the bit values.

Actually its not the b you change its the k.

Kbps = Kilobytes per second
kbps = kilobits per second

Edit: My mistake. The k only denotes the value. We were both wrong.

KBps = 1024 bytes per second
kBps = 1000 bytes per second
kbps = 1000 bits per second

In simpler terms:
b = bits
B = bytes
K = 1024
k = 1000

[Phaelon]

I wasn't wrong dude =p
i said originally b = bits and B = bytes

The K can be argued either way, i have seen many people argue for both ways. I actually have 3 books that all talk about the k/K in different ways too.

[Ait'al]

The b and B things are official and very old. The K and k thing im not sure about. I think it may be something later that came from how people talk about it, like from the early-mid 90s. But the use of b and B is as old as bits and bytes, literally.

When you get back into earlier times. Nobody generalized ram sizes or anything when you were talking about anything in any detail whatsoever. You learned it as it was because you had to to do things. After more user friendly stuff came out, namely after windows95 and more gaming became popular, More peopel were into things PC wise adn started saying stuff more liberally. Though it may have started back when the bit and byte thing was created. I cant remember. It may just have stopped being in some peoples minds as much for a while. Alot of the older stuff has had that happen. And then you get conversations like this everywhere. :doh:

[Marsman]

This is probably an old mistake thousands of unknowlegable computer users make - I bet they are seeing the computer to modem serial rate being reported - not the line rate. Modems can be set to report either - but only the line rate is useful information. No one cares what rate the modem and the computer talk - its about like knowing what rate the PCI bus talks to the ethernet card, rather than what rate the card talks to the hub/switch/device. Old serial ports had a maximum rate of 115,200 baud - this is one of the standard serial port rates. Newer modems and newer serial ports can talk up to 4 times that or 460,800 baud. I suspect the AT command resets the modem to report computer to modem rate and not the line rate - which is the "real" rate you are talking to the internet.

[dscytherulez]

K shows it in values of increasing doubles.
k shows it in values of 10's.

[Phaelon]

hmm, never really thought about it, time to bring out all the books and prove that you are right and I am wrong.

[cloudj110589]

can u use 2 modems at once to get a better connection? if u can heck i got an old one ill hook up lol. i was just wonderin if u could use 2 moems at once

[Phaelon]

You can, but you need a second phone line for it.
you need :
2 Phone lines
2 Modems ( Capable of Shotgun technology or other related technology)

[cloudj110589]

u mean 2 phone lines with 2 diff numbers, or two diff plugs?

[Phaelon]

2 phone lines with two different numbers
Line one 245-5546
Line two 234-5463

[cloudj110589]

gosh i can afford that lol

[Phaelon]

aye, Then see if you can get DSL or a satelitte connection.

[cloudj110589]

only satelitte in my area, and its $600 setup, and i meant i CANT afford it:(

[Rbstr]

Funny thing is 2 phone lines + internet connection cost the same here as Brodband does, so why bother.

2 phone lines is only about $20 bucks extra on top of your local phone bill

[Phaelon]

agreed, the only reason you would do the 2 phone line is if the only thing offered was dialup =p

[Marsman]

Not to mention that your ISP must allow and support modem teaming in the first place - if the don't, you're dead in the water before you even start. Even with it working to maximum, the best you could expect is about 100k down and I don't think you even get a benifit up. Poor substitute for broadband and as expensive.

[cloudj110589]

better than connecting at 26.4 Kbps. and it is K for me, not k, just checked:)

[Phaelon]

if you are connecting at 26.4 right now, you have other issues. Either the phone lines in your house are inadequete or the cable card along the path from you to the CO are in poor shape. You should be able to get 56 Kbps at least.

With two modems you would pull around 112 Kbps or around 11 KBps. Very few ISP's I have come across DON'T do modem teaming. I have found maybe one out of 12 that doesn't allow for modem teaming.