I dunno Figment; I think this is where the conversation bends into a circle, as it seems we are approaching the territory upon which we will not have any common reference with which to reconcile world views...I appreciate the thought; even if I disagree with portions.
This is the stage where I find if someone won't accept the other's point of view and try to use 'proofs' which the other party doesn't recognize as such, it invariably degrades from sharing ideas into an ego centred battle of wits that promotes an entropic spiritual vacume, if you know what I's saying...So I'll probably just leave it there.
Sorry to be a downer
