Honestly, the BF3 comparisons are starting to get a little trite now. Sorry if you don't like it, but games are an iterative medium and they've been borrowing ideas from each other for a long, long time. I mean by this 'it's a ripoff' logic, just about every FPS with ADS is a CoD ripoff and every FPS with competitive multiplayer is a bloody Quake ripoff. Yeah PS2 has similarities to BF3, but PS1 had similarities to Tribes. Games aren't made in a vacuum. Deal with it.

Deal with what exactly? I don't care what is ripping off what, as long as it makes sense.
This means, among other things, that I simply don't accept the "did you see hp bars in other FPS games" wanna-be argument. I did or didn't see a lof things in a lot of various games. So what?

This is Planetside 2. When advocating for something in Planetside 2, use arguments relevant for Planetside 2.

It's just the zeitgeist of multiplayer shooters, so it's easy to draw comparisons to practically everything.

Sure, if you want to completely ignore the state of games. By that logic, if I can't counterpoint your comparisons to BF3, you can't make comparisons to BF3.

So, my point is that the MO for forumside is writing off everything they don't like as "too much like BF3" which makes about as much sense as "too much like Quake." I mean, ffs, I knew people who quit the Beta and refused to play on release because in the capture mechanics you don't pull out a REK and start hacking a terminal. It was "too much like BF3," even though BF3 doesn't have a monopoly on capture points and weren't even the first ones to do it. It's just the zeitgeist of multiplayer shooters, so it's easy to draw comparisons to practically everything.

a lot of innovative things from ps1 had been scrapped in favor for inferior bf3-like mechanics. bf3 just stands for any modern shooter with dumbed down mechanics. it was not the first game who uses them, but it is the most common known actual game that uses them and is used as reference because of that. what enrages the vets is, that soe "fixed" too many things that were not broken.

Some of PS1 mechanics might be clunky, but so are some of PS2'
The one thing not based on BF3 I guess, but made up from scratch, is the design of bases, and it's still mostly a failure.

I mean, ffs, I knew people who quit the Beta and refused to play on release because in the capture mechanics you don't pull out a REK and start hacking a terminal. It was "too much like BF3," even though BF3 doesn't have a monopoly on capture points and weren't even the first ones to do it.

Sure, I'll agree with that. There are things in PS1 that I wish were in PS2. Though I think the class system is not how I would have designed Planetside 2, I also think it's somewhat unfair to put that all at BF3's feet. I think it's just kind of popular to hate on that game because of the influx of morons in that community.

I think the unfortunate reality (and don't get me wrong, I don't like admitting this) is that a lot of this has to do with marketing. If we're all being completely honest here, I think its safe to say that some of PS1's mechanics were a little clunky. Not bad, but inefficient. I really don't think PS1 with better graphics (idealistically, the game most of us want) would do as well as the system we have now because that's the state of games today and I expect that to change again in another 10 years or so. Planetside 1 is my favorite game of all time and I wish we could exist in this static reality where that kind of game would really fly today, but sadly we don't.

What?

"Enemy Health Bar Change
Enemies farther than ten meters away will no longer display health bars when spotted; this applies to both infantry and vehicles."

WHAT THE HELL??

doesn't really matter, it is just that you usually copy-pasta the entire patch notes in the OP instead of just the intro.


also i was surprised by the size of the path