As far as best 3rd party 9700 Pro, the Hercules 3D Prophet is very cool - and a bit speedier. Ati still makes the most solid model, though.
On Radeon crashes - when? I've been running various ATI cards for 3 years and have NEVER experienced ONE bug. And on the last post - why would you ever even consider results of tests that were performed the DAY of release at which time no patches were available and now are all covered?
Also, since when can you pump more out of a Geforce 4? The 9700 Pro, benchmark-wise, puts the 4600 to shame and has better pixels/quality.
Finally - I just looked at more benchmarks besides the PC gamer ones - the 9800 annihilates the FX 5800 in almost everything, especially when image quality is turned up (often posting DOUBLE the score of the FX).
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What the hell was that? What kind of a dumbass n00b shoots his teamie from behind?! Oh. You're on the other team.
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