Originally Posted by Wahooo
Why didn't you use slugs for the NC max at distance?
I'd kinda like to know where they fit in, not saying they skew the scale but they make a difference.
But I AM saying you were one who was saying the NC maxes weren't OP when they were for months after release till the shotgun nerf... same nerf that hit the mercys BTW which hit the pocket of a lot of TR BTW.
Right now the TTK differences in situations MAX on MAX encounters happen is pretty damn close, back to the balance the game has in most situations. Whoever shoots first gets the kill.
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Slugs are a cert option. I can't use them for a test without adding some kind of cert option for TR and VS to keep things fair. Also slugs need 20 hits to kill a MAX at 0m. The buffs against infantry isn't worth it when you account for the lost effectiveness against everything else in my opinion.
And yes, I defended NC MAXes at launch and still have tests from then. Though I did agree that Hacksaws back then was a bit much in ROF, but I never used them. I was and still are a pure Mattock user. Back then Hacksaws did this.
MAX v MAX
0m 12
10m 15.8 average
20 56
I not certain of the stats but I think Hacksaws had a RPS of 5. Searching the official forums for something I found that they had a 200ms fire rate. If Im right then a RPS of 5 should be right. That means dual RPS should be 10. Give me a moment.
0m
12/10=1.2 TTK
10,000/1.2=8,333.33 DPS
10m
15.8/10+4= 5.58 TTK
10,000/5.58= 1,792.11 DPS
20m
56/10+12=17.6 TTK
10,000/17.6= 568.18 DPS
Now look at the stats above in my OP. Hacksaws win at 0m but loose at 10m and 20m. They was shotguns back then and did what shotguns do by fucking someones day at point blank at the cost of longer ranges. Look at them side by side.
Order- NC TR VS and for just the fast firing weapons.
0m
1.2--4.8--4.85
10m
5.58--5.12--4.92
20m
17.6--11.03--9.82
Shotguns won at CQC back then and lost at anything else. Isn't that the point of shotguns?