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Old 2012-03-28, 05:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #68
Figment
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Re: Pageant contestant disqualified over strange circumstances.


Originally Posted by WildGunsTomcat View Post
And see, I'm gonna be honest...

1. tl;dr seriously

2. You're from Canada. Therefore: I don't care.

I don't live in your backwards country, I live in the US where the business owner/private financial backer still has a say.

And thank God for that.

Phew.

Edit: Also, I'm not a right winger. Not that you'd truly know what that meant anyway. It's just a term you people use when someone disagrees with your viewpoint. I'm actually a voting Independent. Go Ron Paul!
1. tl;dr is not an argument.

2. I'm dutch. DUTCH. EUROPEAN. Btw, we got predominately liberated by the Canadians, not by you lot who decided to sit and wait in Belgium to eat waffles. (edit: ) j/k. Love you guys, but be reasonable. Canada and Canadian systems have a lot of merits over the US, as they have minus points like any other nation. To think of the US as the bestest thing ever though? No, not really...

Actually, you are pretty far right wing. Especially if you vote Ron Paul. Do away with FBI, CIA and a lot of other things? It is you who lacks a good idea what is left, since you haven't been exposed to it. Socialists like labour parties are left (larger government, large responsibility for its citizens, not so much control, but caring). Liberals are right wing (small government, more personal responsibilities, employer oriented). Left of the socialists are the environmentalists and pacifists (strict governments to enforce responsibility) and left of that the communists (huge government, more control by "the community" over the individualists - worker oriented). Right of the liberals are the populists (who also often share socialist values, but are often more self centered, nationalist/patriotic and in the extreme cases flirting with xenophobia) and then there's the traditional conservatives.

Liberals are on the right side of the political spectrum. I'm a progressive liberal, you also have conservative liberals. You are a religious, conservative liberal yourself, with the emphasis on religious because it determines your world views and frame of reference. Smack down in the middle between liberals and labour is the dutch democrat/republican party, which is basically a bit of a progressive liberal-labour-environmentalists, but mostly pro-republic party. Nobody really knows what their point is.

In the Netherlands, the closest one gets to your political spectrum and world views is the 2% SGP (reformed) party, representing our Bible Belt communities. However it, like the CDA and CU have a lot of "family"-themed political views that are somewhat closer to the centrum and even in between liberals and socialists (state helping families, particularly LARGE families). Beyond that, they are more conservate. The SGP though is extreme in that they are for instance against women suffrage and very dogmatic in their principal thinking (working on sunday). I don't think there's any party in particular in the Netherlands that can be quite compared to the Republicans. Those are more of a cross between conservative liberals, populists and strong religious conservatism, after all.

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