I still play tribes 1. I don't know how you get off saying how it doesn't take teamwork to win game. If you've ever played in a real 8 v 8 match it takes plenty of teamwork. I'm not sure what mod you played, but I've played shifter forever. Its fast paced and your rite, it does require quick moves via mouse & keyboard. Now if you just played it w/o being in a real clan, it really doesn't require much teamwork. It was and still is a great game for its day, but i'm thinking ps will be better.