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Old 2012-04-06, 12:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #25
CutterJohn
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Re: Associated Press Luncheon Speech


Originally Posted by Sgt Shultz View Post
Sure as hell sounds like an overreach to me. Whether you want to call it socialist or not is up to you.
Maybe it is. Do you know whats hilarious? Single payer government run insurance, hell, even a National Health Service like Britain has.. Both of these things *would* be constitutional, because while the federal government may not have the power to force commerce, it most certainly has the power to tax.

Originally Posted by Art. 1 sec. 8
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States
Thats why medicare can exist.


The only thing invoking the constitution accomplishes is ensuring next time this comes up(and it will, seems to be a giant push every 10-15 years since the 60s), a mandate, the conservative compromise thats been peddled the last 4 times there was a massive health care push, will simply not even be on the table.

Declaring this unconstitutional will guarantee a single payer solution.





Originally Posted by Sgt Shultz View Post
I am not debating if healthcare costs are going up and I certainly agree with you that it is a problem and is not going away. However, I take serious issue with how what is being presented. Obama is trying to pull the "Republicans want you to die" card, when the real issue is the bill that was written was a massive overreach.
In fairness, Republicans started that with the 'Death panel' talk. There is hyperbole on both sides of the aisle.

Last edited by CutterJohn; 2012-04-06 at 05:30 AM.
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