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Old 2012-04-11, 04:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #30
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Re: Santorum Drops Out

Woah, someone is on the offensive.
Originally Posted by Malorn View Post
Obama wants a nanny socialist state with wealth redistribution and "social justice".
Having fair taxes isn't socialism. Socialism is generally controlling the means of production and distribution to control companies. If you call every tax that isn't a fixed rate socialist you have a poor understanding of where taxing doesn't cause harm.

Originally Posted by Malorn View Post
Romney needs to embrace his capitalist past and run on that. He knows economy, he knows how to make businesses successful and prosperous.
You can't really sell the government. I don't see how his usual strategies would work. His pas with businesses is questionable at best and if anything shows a careless understanding for employees.

Originally Posted by Malorn View Post
Convincing people like Sirisian is neither possible nor necessary.
Because I don't listen to statements with no backed up proof. Seriously what you just said are the cries of an ignorant voter. It's very tiring to see people like yourself in the US voting without knowing anything about government policies or researching their candidates.

Originally Posted by Malorn View Post
Government-funding private businesses (the "green" work he's done, like Solyndra and other failures)
I think this was because of the threat of foreign expansion into green energy. I'm with you on the Solyndra problem. I'm not sure how they thought they could defeat Chinese manufacturing directly. They were already years ahead. Kind of a naive move on Obama's part.
Originally Posted by Malorn View Post
Re-distribution of wealth from the wealthy to the not-so-wealthy
Providing government services so the poor don't stay poor and have a chance makes economical sense. Unless you're referring to the buffet rule, which while it'll take in very little money for the government, is a simple change until the broader tax problems are fixed. (Referring to the people that take in 1 million a year). Not sure what else you're referring to. Unless you're against the current progressive tax code which isn't really progressive for the extreme.
Originally Posted by Malorn View Post
Forcing Americans to buy a service (health care, which is likely to be struck down by Supreme Court)
It's the only compromise Republicans would make. They blocked a single payer initiative since healthcare to become anything like a human right is anti-capitalist. I don't trust private insurance industries to decide who gets care and what quality. Forcing people to buy a private service or implementing single-payer is the only way to take pressure away from the current healthcare system such that it can lower premiums after its own insurance isn't so stressed from providing free health-care to the uninsured. (Overall the current system is extremely broken, and most people have realized that. The solution to it isn't agreed upon). Obama is really doing the best he can modeling the Massachusetts' system.

Originally Posted by Malorn View Post
Continued bailouts (the "stimulus")
Stimulus did have a general positive impact on unemployment if you look at the numbers. Regarding the bailouts it really did help GM which is now back on track and strong (making billions in profit). Check this page out. Most Republicans didn't realize a lot of the bailout is being paid back and has helped companies get back on their feet after huge restructuring. Now whether the government should help large companies that fail is up for debate, but keep in mind what we don't create things at home (like cars) we import, and Obama has a strong policy on imports/exports. (You probably already know he's on track right now to doubling exports).

Originally Posted by Malorn View Post
Increased government spending
Most of that was for Medicaid and Social Security. Something he didn't have much control over. Unless you're referring to something else?

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