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Old 2012-06-05, 11:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #76
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Re: The Vanu Sovereignty seems out of place.


Originally Posted by Zekeen View Post
....................................... but we all know the New Conglomerate are the real good guys!
Well duuuuh. But I'm trying to be P.C here man. Stop ruining it!
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Old 2012-06-05, 11:04 PM   [Ignore Me] #77
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Vanu are Scientist but also Religious Fanatiks they beleive the Thecnologie of the ancients vanu aliens is the next step for humanity etc..

Nc do not beleive in that crap so VS are alone NC are agains tyranie Tr are the tyran and VS are Religious Fanatics theyre GODS is Vanu technologie and yes they are purple !
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Old 2012-06-06, 12:03 AM   [Ignore Me] #78
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....................................... but we all know the New Conglomerate are the real good guys!
As written by Orwell maybe.
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Old 2012-06-06, 12:09 AM   [Ignore Me] #79
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....................................... but we all know the New Conglomerate are the real good guys!
Are they? I've seen this logic before, but I had to question it then as well as now.

They fight for freedom, but who's freedom? Who is really free even in America? Sure in comparison to radically different government types like China or Africa we are far from enslaved peons. But if you think about it, the ideals supporting communism, socialism, and even monarchies are all based around very positive goals for the people. Or so they say (though in the case of communism and socialism, it's probably true one way or another).

In "roleplaying" terms. You guys are just capitalistic pigs ripe for slaughter.
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Old 2012-06-06, 12:15 AM   [Ignore Me] #80
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Vanu are Scientist but also Religious Fanatiks they beleive the Thecnologie of the ancients vanu aliens is the next step for humanity etc..

VS are Religious Fanatics theyre GODS is Vanu technologie and yes they are purple !
Vanu Jesus abides.
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Old 2012-06-06, 02:20 AM   [Ignore Me] #81
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You'd have loved the lore of the first game. Which was "three armies stuck on planet. FIGHT"
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Old 2012-06-06, 02:27 AM   [Ignore Me] #82
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You who are not Vanu have no right to comment.....it matters not as we will crush you on the battlefield as we did before...

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Old 2012-06-06, 02:56 AM   [Ignore Me] #83
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You'd have loved the lore of the first game. Which was "three armies stuck on planet. FIGHT"
That's the lore of this game too.
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This is the last VIP post in this thread.   Old 2012-06-06, 03:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #84
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VS have a different ideology from NC, that's why they didn't join them.

On one hand you have the NC perspective - and that is that the VS are no better than the TR. The NC see the VS technology as a quasi-religious cult that is brainwashing people with the technology, which can be used to enslave the populace, which explains their zealous devotion to alien technology. The NC see them as just as much a threat to liberty and capitalism as the TR.

The VS also see the NC differently, seeing them just as backwards as the TR in their inability to embrace the next step in human evolution, and their clinging to silly notions like Freedom when there is so much more.

The NC want freedom and individuality. The VS want the next step in human evolution without any regard to the individual. They are a collective which doesn't value freedom at all. They couldn't be more different.
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Old 2012-06-06, 03:10 AM   [Ignore Me] #85
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I never read the backstory , I just tagged along into Vanu cause my friends wanted flying MAX's and laser guns, but even years later I already know without thinking about it that im picking Vanu again.
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Old 2012-06-06, 03:18 AM   [Ignore Me] #86
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You guys are just capitalistic pigs ripe for slaughter.
Since when were communists technologically advanced? :P
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Old 2012-06-06, 03:21 AM   [Ignore Me] #87
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TR= The super strict parents that control and dictate what their children can do or say.
NC=The Rebellious son who always gets into fights with his parents. Hangs out with the wrong people.
VS=The daughter who wants all the latest fashions and anything that not a lot of people can get or afford. The snobby selfish princess.

We all know what happens at the end. NC son OD's on drugs or ends up in jail. VS daughter maxes out her cards and ends up working as a stripper.
The TR parents hear the news about their children...think for a moment...shrug it off and go back to sipping their fine wine. The husband looks at the wife and says "We can always make more".

That's my take on the whole lore thing. Just one messed up family. And yes, this cycle will repeat in PS2.
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Old 2012-06-06, 03:25 AM   [Ignore Me] #88
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^^Didn't have to look at the top right of your post to tell you were TR, lol.
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Old 2012-06-06, 03:37 AM   [Ignore Me] #89
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Best way to put the actual lore back into what the factions are.

Terran Republic - The original faction from which all originate. Forced into using harsh tactics and capital punishment for small offenses in order to cope with a terrorist threat that arose from the colony being separated from the main world.

New Conglomerate - Corporations who gathered oppressed civilians and rebelled as a result of the senseless violence from the Terran Republic's new laws and restrictions.

Vanu Sovereignty - Science based groups that tried to stay neutral from the conflict until uncovering ancient alien artifacts and decided to fight in order to prevent the other two factions from using them for warfare and their own gains (ironic isn't it?)

TR Goal - To reunite the republic and defeat the outlaws and rebels.

NC Goal - To beat back the Republic and reaffirm their own government based on individual liberty.

VS Goal - To stop the other factions and take hold of the Vanu relics as a means to elevate mankind to the next level.
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Old 2012-06-06, 04:13 AM   [Ignore Me] #90
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Since when were communists technologically advanced? :P
America played catch-up for most of the space race in the 60s. And I think you'll find a lot of the US military electronics comes from China now.

jus' sayin'
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