PS going FTP - Page 10

SgtMAD · 2014-04-25, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Edfishy

They said before that the PS1 servers ran off of some old Pentium 4's. What'd be awesome of SOE is to someday just make it open source. We're talking about a game built in the early early 2000's and now over 10 years old.

I happen to know a guy that has cracked PS wide open, I have seen med tools spout flames reks fire bullets.
he can change all sorts of things around, he has been waiting for open source for almost a decade now.

Godless knows who I am talking about

hell, they were talking about setting up a private server years ago, just didn't do it due to legal concerns

Edfishy · 2014-04-25, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by SgtMAD

I happen to know a guy that has cracked PS wide open, I have seen med tools spout flames reks fire bullets.
he can change all sorts of things around, he has been waiting for open source for almost a decade now.

Godless knows who I am talking about

hell, they were talking about setting up a private server years ago, just didn't do it due to legal concerns

Well, they (SOE) seem to be enjoying the positive attention they're getting for the whole H1Z1 "redditinize our game!" bit. Were they to announce in a couple months that they were going to be making Planetside 1 open source before the end of the year, I think they'd get decent press. "Sony's giving back to their player community by allowing an old MMO to actually be run by the community!? Awesome!".

Financially there's nothing more to get out of it the old fashioned way, but boy could they buy themselves some goodwill.

ncfan · 2014-04-25, 08:03 PM

here it comes guys and girls all access is rolling in on a train this tuesday. here is proof. i can hardly wait

https://forums.station.sony.com/soe/...st-11500341422

Effective · 2014-04-26, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by SgtMAD

I happen to know a guy that has cracked PS wide open, I have seen med tools spout flames reks fire bullets.
he can change all sorts of things around, he has been waiting for open source for almost a decade now.

Godless knows who I am talking about

hell, they were talking about setting up a private server years ago, just didn't do it due to legal concerns

Quite a few community members know who you're talking about :P (well, maybe not quite a few, but a good handful). Good times, haven't spoken to S in a while.

GodlessHeretic · 2014-04-26, 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by SgtMAD

I happen to know a guy that has cracked PS wide open, I have seen med tools spout flames reks fire bullets.
he can change all sorts of things around, he has been waiting for open source for almost a decade now.

We have the technology...

With luck and good timing, i may finish school/training in time so i could help out with that project. Man, that would be awesome.

Originally Posted by Effective

Quite a few community members know who you're talking about :P (well, maybe not quite a few, but a good handful). Good times, haven't spoken to S in a while.

He's still around, biding his time...

QuiCKaNdDeaDLy · 2014-04-26, 04:29 AM

Why does every1 act like Secant is the Big Unknown?

He just should ask Smed he can Start a Private Server without them sueing him like the SWGEmu guys did. At this point I see good Chances for a ok...

If I remember right SOE cant make it open Source because it was Orginaly Developed by some other Company named V... (cant remember)

ringring · 2014-04-26, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by QuiCKaNdDeaDLy

Why does every1 act like Secant is the Big Unknown?

He just should ask Smed he can Start a Private Server without them sueing him like the SWGEmu guys did. At this point I see good Chances for a ok...

If I remember right SOE cant make it open Source because it was Orginaly Developed by some other Company named V... (cant remember)

Verant.

But irrc Verant was merged into SOE at one point.

Figment · 2014-04-26, 09:27 AM

Mailed Smedley about the bugs. Interestingly, I too asked if Secant could be allowed to help fix the game - asked Smedley if they couldn't set up a contract where players would work on it for free, but would still have legal obligations.

Edfishy · 2014-04-26, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Figment

Mailed Smedley about the bugs. Interestingly, I too asked if Secant could be allowed to help fix the game - asked Smedley if they couldn't set up a contract where players would work on it for free, but would still have legal obligations.

That's the problem. SOE is stretched too thin to manage or organize community members, so writing up a creative commons legal protection and then just releasing the source code would be the best way to go about it.

You've got to have guts and vision to do this though:

A) You're admitting your company doesn't have the manpower to work the product.

B) You're risking the 0.0001% chance a competitor or fan tries to wiggle out of the legal protection and make money off of decades old work.

C) You've got to convince the upper management (who's already concerned about your department's performance considering there's no "WoW", "WoT", or "COD" in the dossier), that a totally unconventional approach like trusting the community to freely distribute and operate one of your IP's is a good decision.

Ultimately the phantom risks of setting PlanetSide 1 up as an open source product are miniscule (more and more a standard practice in this era), and the prospective public relation gains are huge.

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Figment · 2014-04-27, 12:45 PM

I also made mention that the reason they didn't remove BFRs was that they were legally obligated to provide access to it due to the aftershock expansion promising such.

With the caves not possible to enter and locked in their TR/NC and neutral ways, they do not provide this content, nor the content of Core Combat to Vanu players.

Furthermore, I mentioned that the PS2 player studio proved succesful, so why not allow modding of PS1 by professional hobbyists?

OpolE · 2014-04-27, 03:37 PM

If core cambat is disabled then I guess the masses would come back as there wouldn't be BFR's again? Right?

Minigun · 2014-04-27, 05:22 PM

What was that Chinese version of planetside that hovered around for a little while.

Ghryphen · 2014-04-27, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Minigun

What was that Chinese version of planetside that hovered around for a little while.

Welkin 4591

Babyfark McGeez · 2014-04-27, 06:36 PM

It also went by "mars wars" if i recall right...or was that a different game?

OpolE · 2014-04-28, 01:56 AM

Mars war/ Welkin is just horrific. I played Mars War for a bit, and also made a few Chinese logins and there was only a few weapons and maps added since launch and it runs horrible.

It helped a few boring days go by but seriously, disgustingly shit game. And dead too. Maybe 50 on at peak