Sony breakup into separate companies?

[Calista]

What do you guys make of this?

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...division-split

SOE reports to SCE which is part of the electronics division and the makers of Playstation. Sony's Entertainment (movie and TV production) division is the more profitable of the two. Rumors maybe but I can see this movement gaining momentum as this article represents. It might be time for SOE to truly support SCE and start developing PS titles instead of PC. Just my 2 cents.

[Fenrys]

Last I read, Sony was losing money on everything except their games, and they decided to make the Playstation honcho their new CEO a while back.

It might be good for Planetside to flee the sinking ship.
Then again, Sony still has a large reserve of capital that SOE would lose access to, so one good economic drought could wipe them out if they went solo.

I'm not sure if Planetside 2 development is sustainable all by itself. They might be losing money they plan to recover when the new Everquest is released, and using PS2 as a kind of beta test for the EQ engine. If that's the case, it's probably a good idea to remain latched to Sony's corporate teat at least until EQ's release.

[basti]

Originally Posted by Calista

What do you guys make of this?

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...division-split

SOE reports to SCE which is part of the electronics division and the makers of Playstation. Sony's Entertainment (movie and TV production) division is the more profitable of the two. Rumors maybe but I can see this movement gaining momentum as this article represents. It might be time for SOE to truly support SCE and start developing PS titles instead of PC. Just my 2 cents.

Suggestion: Read some books or something, learn, get a clue.


SOE focusing on Playstation games, lol. You dont even remotly know what you are talking about.

[Pella]

Originally Posted by basti

Suggestion: Read some books or something, learn, get a clue.


SOE focusing on Playstation games, lol. You dont even remotly know what you are talking about.

Dont need a book to understand that you can download games on consoles direct to the hardrive.

Add in the fact that FTP on console is a huge market to tap into.

Only have to look at SOE's Portfolio of games. Most of all PS2 is rumored for PS4. Which the next gen console will easily handle. Plus SOE would of had the PS4 Hardware first. So developing there current engine makes sense.

It wont be their main focus. But i am certain they are working on it.

List of Developers that are confirmed to make games for PS4. Now what would SOE being doing there?


Smart move by Sony.

[Qwan]

Originally Posted by Pella

Dont need a book to understand that you can download games on consoles direct to the hardrive.

Add in the fact that FTP on console is a huge market to tap into.

Only have to look at SOE's Portfolio of games. Most of all PS2 is rumored for PS4. Which the next gen console will easily handle. Plus SOE would of had the PS4 Hardware first. So developing there current engine makes sense.

It wont be their main focus. But i am certain they are working on it.

List of Developers that are confirmed to make games for PS4. Now what would SOE being doing there?

Smart move by Sony.

I dont see PS2 making it to PS4, I mean the style of the game itself, MMOFPS, lets drop the FPS part and just look at the MMO part, there arent many MMO's connected to the console world, well none that I have heard of. I mean dont get me wrong, it can be done, Im just saying with the attention span (ADD) of most console kids, PS2 would maybe be popular initially but when the next new hot FPS comes out for PS4, PS2 will be collecting dust in the harddrive. I have two console kids, they have a stack of games, most collect dust and those that are worth somthing get traded in at GS (Gamestop) for the newer games that come out and this is done quite often. So I guess the question is would the effort and time and money that it takes to keep this MMOFPS up and running, really be worth it for individuals who change games just as fast as they change there draws. And would a MMOFPS really be popular on a console. Personnally I just dont see it.

[PredatorFour]

Originally Posted by Qwan

with the attention span (ADD) of most console kids, PS2 would maybe be popular initially but when the next new hot FPS comes out for PS4, PS2 will be collecting dust in the harddrive.

There is a common misconception amongst PC gamers that anyone who plays on a console is a 'console kid' and it's completely untrue.

I play PS2 alot but i also play on PS3, i wouldn't class myself as a console kid. I know loads of people who are all older than me (26) who play shooters on consoles.

But anyway i think PS2 will be a huge hit on PS4 and it would be stupid for them financially to not cross it over.

As for SOE going broke? If that's the case i really hope CCP pick up the forgelight engine to use on Dust cos that would be truly epic.

[Fenrys]

Originally Posted by Qwan

there arent many MMO's connected to the console world, well none that I have heard of.

I played one of the Everquests (forget which) on a Playstation 2 back in 2004 IIRC.

Originally Posted by NewSith

And the reason consoles are more profittable, is their being less vulnerable to piracy.

It's cheaper to develop games for consoles because there is only 1 standardized hardware configuration you need to optimize for and bug test.

I'm not sure if piracy has much of an effect on profitability. Some people buy games after pirating them, when they would not have bought it if they never had the opportunity to try it first. Others just don't have the cash and would not buy it anyway. I don't know what percentage of pirates have the money but choose to not pay for the games they enjoy. It's probably a smaller number than the industry lobbyists would have us believe.

[NewSith]

Originally Posted by Fenrys

It's cheaper to develop games for consoles because there is only 1 standardized hardware configuration you need to optimize for and bug test.

Well, the words were "more profittable", not "less expensive". But that too.

[Dragonskin]

Originally Posted by Qwan

I dont see PS2 making it to PS4, I mean the style of the game itself, MMOFPS, lets drop the FPS part and just look at the MMO part, there arent many MMO's connected to the console world, well none that I have heard of.

List of MMOs for console. Playstation 2 had Final Fantasy XI which was later brought to Xbox 360. Playstation 3 currently has Free Realms and DC Universe... both are free to play models created by SOE. Final Fantasy XIV will be on a playstation platform as well... originally slated for PS3, but will more than likely be on PS4 unless this was scrapped. I haven't kept up with Final Fantasy XIV after the PC release crashed and burned.

There is absolutely nothing stopping MMOs from coming to consoles. There is no reason to beleive that Planetside 2 won't be on the PS4. The hardware can handle it. They could adapt it for controllers or players could use a mouse and keyboard. However, they will likely run Planetside 2 on console only servers like they do for DC Universe... but they don't have to because in Final Fantasy XI you could play with people on Xbox 360, PC or Playstation 2.

Originally Posted by Fenrys

I played one of the Everquests (forget which) on a Playstation 2 back in 2004 IIRC.

I forgot about this one since I was playing Everquest on PC at the time. The game was Everquest Champions of Norrath.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champions_of_Norrath

[Qwan]

Originally Posted by Dragonskin

List of MMOs for console. Playstation 2 had Final Fantasy XI which was later brought to Xbox 360. Playstation 3 currently has Free Realms and DC Universe... both are free to play models created by SOE. Final Fantasy XIV will be on a playstation platform as well... originally slated for PS3, but will more than likely be on PS4 unless this was scrapped. I haven't kept up with Final Fantasy XIV after the PC release crashed and burned.

There is absolutely nothing stopping MMOs from coming to consoles. There is no reason to beleive that Planetside 2 won't be on the PS4. The hardware can handle it. They could adapt it for controllers or players could use a mouse and keyboard. However, they will likely run Planetside 2 on console only servers like they do for DC Universe... but they don't have to because in Final Fantasy XI you could play with people on Xbox 360, PC or Playstation 2.



I forgot about this one since I was playing Everquest on PC at the time. The game was Everquest Champions of Norrath.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champions_of_Norrath

I understand what you saying, Im not saying MMO's can make it to console, Im saying PS2 is alot more fast paced, and it doesnt have instances, also look at the ratings of the final fantasy they were below average (due to bugs and glitches and somewhat game play). The thing that made FF XI stand out was that they were putting PC and console players on the same server, which was cool but when it came to fixing issues with the game, it took longer and was alot harder to find what was causing most of these problems. DC universe is not doing so hot well, a lot of downloading time, and from what most reviews are saying, patience is needed when dealing with the game (most console players want to insert disk hit play) and when you finally get it up and running, it gets old quick. So lets take a fast paced game like PS2, its going to have it problems, need patching and a very large content for a console, not to mention updates. I dont know, SOE is going to require an army to keep this game up and running smoothly on console, and as I said before will it be worth the money.

@ Predatorfour: I ment no disrespect, when I use the term "console kid" its just pertans to the thought process of the more than average console gamer. Fast paced, and always ready for the next big release. I have two teenage boys and they hit me up at least once or twice a month, about the new game and how there gonna die if they dont have it. I actually went out and got them state issued ID's so they can trade in games without me at GameStop (Which requires ID to trade in games) they see me playing planetside on PC and they think it looks cool but, were soon back down stairs playing Assasins creed, and skyrim, and call of duty. My girl is a PS3 gamer, she does school, work, cook (and other things) and plays here PS3. I let her check out PS2 and she said that was to much going on there for her. She actually asked me after about 15 minutes of playing, and I quote "What do we have to do to win the game". So when I say console kids its not a bad thing its just that heavy console gamers usually dont get into long drawn out gaming concepts like PS2.

[Sangahyando]

Originally Posted by Qwan

there arent many MMO's connected to the console world, well none that I have heard of.

Defiance for a kick off. I would also add the Fable franchise as well.

[Misato]

Originally Posted by Sangahyando

Defiance for a kick off. I would also add the Fable franchise as well.

Final fantasy online. PC, Xbox, and play station all played on the same server. Still up after 10 years.

[Pella]

Originally Posted by basti

Suggestion: Read some books or something, learn, get a clue.


SOE focusing on Playstation games, lol. You dont even remotly know what you are talking about.

Just had to re quote this Basti fail.

[Calista]

Originally Posted by Pella

Just had to re quote this Basti fail.

[Nathaniak]

In some ways, it would be good to see this game on the PS4, as it would lead to more publicity, and more money for the devs, which would hopefully incentivise more development resources.

On the other hand, letting those console players get their grubby hands on Planetside... I'm getting a bit angry.