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Old 2012-06-22, 06:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #61
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Some people really like to use joysticks for flight, I don't personally see any use in mocking them. If that's what you're used to then go for it. If that's not what you're used to then stick with what you know or be prepared for a lot of training.

I've been using the Cyborg FLY5 for the past couple years, pretty much the successor to the Saitek mentioned earlier. I recommend it because it has a very good feel and it's not overly laden with buttons. PS1 and I assume PS2 flight required very few buttons.

http://www.cyborggaming.com/prod/v5stick.htm

There's a few things that I look for in a flight stick.

1) A stable base
2) Good stick tension
3) Yaw control by twist
3) Throttle control
4) View hat

The FLY5 has all of that plus the fit is completely adjustable and the four extra buttons at your thumb are very handy.

My main problem with HOTAS systems is that they're really supposed to be hard mounted with each half on either side of you. They get really uncomfortable when used on a desk and forget putting them in your lap.

Ultimately though there's only a few things that were needed for flying in PS1 besides a stick and throttle: VT up/down buttons, weapon switch, map button, minimap zoom in/out, ejection, and push-to-talk (if you didn't use voice activation). That was pretty much it.

It's really about the feel of the stick, it should be stable and have good tension, making sure the sensitivity is right for your game either in-game or through drivers. Otherwise keep the controls simple. That's the tough part about choosing a joystick, if you're buying online you can't put your hands on it and try it. This is the major thing I miss about video game stores.
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Old 2012-06-22, 06:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #62
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I would hold off until you play it first to make the decision.
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Old 2012-06-22, 06:45 PM   [Ignore Me] #63
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You call that a joystick?
This, is a joystick.


But i think joysticks would be good, if i can get mine working on the laptop, i might try it out to see if its any easier to use then a mouse.
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Old 2012-06-22, 06:52 PM   [Ignore Me] #64
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I'm a complete dyed-in-the-wool flight sim nerd, but . . .



Primary control.



Yaw, brakes.



MFDs.



Freelook control.

I recognize this will be better done on my Logitech 3D, but that doesn't mean I won't fire up the whole rig just once. Fun Fact - 7 USB connections worth of flight sim gear.

True story - I'm the reason your FPS still has an invert y-axis option.
i have the throttle and joystick, as well as a free look setup that i have yet to setup.

i'm waiting to see how PS2 handles it all before i decide how i'm going to fly.

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Old 2012-06-22, 07:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #65
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Originally Posted by maradine View Post
I'm a complete dyed-in-the-wool flight sim nerd, but . . .



Primary control.



Yaw, brakes.



MFDs.



Freelook control.

I recognize this will be better done on my Logitech 3D, but that doesn't mean I won't fire up the whole rig just once. Fun Fact - 7 USB connections worth of flight sim gear.

True story - I'm the reason your FPS still has an invert y-axis option.
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Old 2012-06-22, 07:22 PM   [Ignore Me] #66
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Originally Posted by maradine View Post
I was thinking one of those G13s might be a really happy medium for that problem. Very ergonomic key cluster, plus mini stick for another axis at your thumb.
I'd go for that except I'm right handed and I wouldn't want to use my left thumb on a tiny thumb stick to control a plane. I was looking at this but I would have the same problem with it.

I'm extremely picky about my flight controls. Keyboard and mouse is by far the best gaming controller ever invented, but I find a few situations where it is inadequate. Anything that flies like a jet or a propeller plane really requires a joystick. Helicopters on the other hand are perfect for keyboard and mouse since it's rare that you would ever want to roll or loop, and the yaw is the fastest way to turn anyway.

One thing is for certain though. In any flying situation the joystick beats the pants off one of those little analogue thumb sticks on the xbox controller. Why? The range of motion on a joystick is much greater than the thumb sticks. It's much easier to be precise with your hand on a joystick moving around a 8x8 inch area than it is to be precise with your thumb on a thumbstick moving around a 1x1 inch area.

Thumbsticks are best for sports games where precision isn't as critical, but quick direction changes are critical.

PS2 will be interesting because not only do they need to decide how their aircraft will be controlled, but they also need to decide how faction specific aircraft controls will differ. We already know that the Scythe flys differently than the NC and TR aircraft. It's entirely possible that someone like me would fly the scythe with the keyboard and mouse, but require a joystick for the other aircraft. I hope to find out soon

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Old 2012-06-22, 08:04 PM   [Ignore Me] #67
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Old 2012-06-22, 09:13 PM   [Ignore Me] #68
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Mouse and keyboard all the way (and I have a HOTAS Warthog sitting next to my pc).
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Old 2012-06-22, 09:35 PM   [Ignore Me] #69
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The best joystick for PS has and always will be your mouse.
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Old 2012-06-23, 02:55 AM   [Ignore Me] #70
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Thank god we're talking about PS2.
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Old 2012-06-23, 03:37 AM   [Ignore Me] #71
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Gotta love how an attempt to find the best joystick is always hijacked by mouse fanatics.

In any case, I purchased a joystick suggested in this thread.

Going from a Raider Fx Advanced, bought back at around, 1995


To a Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas


I get it in next week and can't wait to see how it handles. Haven't been able to use a joystick since I played PS1! Whether it was better or worse, it was a LOT more fun with a joystick than mouse and keyboard.

This seems like the best choice joystick. Costing me only 46 dollars, with free shipping through amazon, and it has great reviews so far. It's also 2 parts that connect together, so who can go against having more?

Also, I'm considering if I should paint it NC colors... gotta find a good paint kit for such stuff... and cheap.
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Old 2012-06-23, 10:54 AM   [Ignore Me] #72
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Hybridise! Joystick and keyboard!

Also there's no real reason to start arguing about which is better when it does come down to your own play-style. It's like arguing which kind of cloak is better for an infiltrator, it all depends on the person, so there is no absolutes. Personally I find joysticks easier because rather than pushing a mouse directly forward and the aircraft tips downward and forward, with a joystick you'd be pushing forward and downward to achieve the same movement.

Besides which, if I'm trying to turn to get on the enemies tail, but the process take like 10 seconds, I'd rather (and it is more consistent) to have a constantly turning axis rather than having to lift up the mouse and move it back to the original position before making the vehicle turn again. It may seem small but for me it gets annoying after a while, plus the time gap while lifting the mouse all adds up in a combat system where split second actions need to be taken.
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Old 2012-06-24, 04:31 AM   [Ignore Me] #73
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I got a Logitech 3D Pro for $30 and it's worked beautifully for BF3. I can control Helicopters with insane precision, and the customizable buttons give me every control ill ever need while in the air right at my finger tips. Wonderful stick.
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Old 2012-07-20, 09:10 PM   [Ignore Me] #74
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I am thinking about getting a Saitek X52 flight system to try PS2 flying with. Any one out there have any feedback on that? I never used a Saitek before and was thinking price range $50~$100ish.
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Old 2012-07-20, 09:36 PM   [Ignore Me] #75
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I'm deeply interested in the possibilities offered by the new Mosquito. It's the fastest bird in the sky, which means in air-to-air my beloved Republic will have a big edge. Also, I suck at flying and never really got into it -- at least with the mouse/keyboard combo. Soooo.....

I think I'll wait until late beta at a minimum, and see what the techno-nerd elite have to say about which joystick being best for PS2. I want one, but know little or nothing about joysticks *or* flying.

I suspect a lot of folks are in the same boat.

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