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Old 2012-07-11, 07:25 AM   [Ignore Me] #31
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Re: Will Planetside 2 be playable with a gamepad / xbox 360 controller?


Originally Posted by Zerodyme View Post
its really a matter of preference not performance, Also a gamer's skill is a factor.


and the argument about aim assist is bull sh*t, I personally do better with a controller on PC fps then a keyboard and mouse, its a lot easier to aim than the mouse, as well as being quicker at evasive things like turning around
If you have FPS skills, it would be better to use it at a mouse/keyboard setup, on a PC game. Rather than fighting people using that setup with a gamepad. This would only gimp your "skill-factor".
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Old 2012-07-11, 07:28 AM   [Ignore Me] #32
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OP, there is third party software that you can use, motionjoy or xpadder for example. I too have a friend with farked hands and he uses a PS3 controller to play PC games, he uses Motionjoy and it works fine with most games.
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Old 2012-07-11, 10:09 AM   [Ignore Me] #33
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Re: Will Planetside 2 be playable with a gamepad / xbox 360 controller?


Originally Posted by Zerodyme View Post
its really a matter of preference not performance, Also a gamer's skill is a factor.


and the argument about aim assist is bull sh*t, I personally do better with a controller on PC fps then a keyboard and mouse, its a lot easier to aim than the mouse, as well as being quicker at evasive things like turning around
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Old 2012-07-11, 10:17 AM   [Ignore Me] #34
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WellI in sure they will have support as others have stated there are many gamers out there who have conditions which make a controller much more comfortable to use. But I will say this, when I got 3rd degree burns on my hands and tried to use my xbox controler to play PS1 it was a huge fail. You basically limit yourself to a support role or driver / gunner of a manned turret. But still a viable option.
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Old 2012-07-11, 10:50 AM   [Ignore Me] #35
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I intend to use the 360 pad for flying myself, i am used to it now after playing BF3 on PC
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Old 2012-07-11, 10:51 AM   [Ignore Me] #36
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Re: Will Planetside 2 be playable with a gamepad / xbox 360 controller?


Originally Posted by Zerodyme View Post
its really a matter of preference not performance, Also a gamer's skill is a factor.


and the argument about aim assist is bull sh*t, I personally do better with a controller on PC fps then a keyboard and mouse, its a lot easier to aim than the mouse, as well as being quicker at evasive things like turning around
That is true.

All the PC elitist claim a mouse and keyboard is more precise and gives you an advantage, let's see the data.

Oh thats right, you can only post a couple bull shit articles that some elitist wrote.

Each controller setup has its advantages, whether you choose a gamepad or mouse/keyboard.

Btw Xbox 360 controllers do have an option for a mini keyboard to be plugged in.
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Old 2012-07-11, 11:04 AM   [Ignore Me] #37
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Re: Will Planetside 2 be playable with a gamepad / xbox 360 controller?


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All the PC elitist claim a mouse and keyboard is more precise and gives you an advantage, let's see the data.

Oh thats right, you can only post a couple bull shit articles that some elitist wrote.
Or people could simply use common sense?

Why do console FPS have auto-aim in the first place?
How come none of the tournament PC fps players use a controller on PC even though they are allowed to?
Why did Microsoft abandon the idea of cross-platform play?

How come Shadowrun and Dreamcast Quake 3 failed so hard on the consoles?

A controller is what it is, a cheap Jack-of-all-trades gaming input device designed to work well with every genre of game, that fails every time it's put up against a more specialised input method, be it Joysticks in airsims, wheels for racing games or mice for FPS,RTS,MOBA, ARPG etc.
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Old 2012-07-11, 11:09 AM   [Ignore Me] #38
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These are the stupidest threads. You will get absolutely MAIMED by PC players if you use a controller. How can you even argue this?? LOL.

Did you ever wonder why XBOX players don't play with PC players? The precision and speed of a mouse cannot be compared to a clumsy stick. GG
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Old 2012-07-11, 11:13 AM   [Ignore Me] #39
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Re: Will Planetside 2 be playable with a gamepad / xbox 360 controller?


Originally Posted by GreatMazinkaise View Post
Buy a mouse?
^This

Why would anybody want to play an FPS or MMO of any kind on a gamepad? It just doesn't compute. Get yourself a nice $15 joystick, a $15 mouse, and find a cheap keyboard at Goodwill. That will cost the same or less than a gamepad and perform much better.
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Old 2012-07-11, 11:14 AM   [Ignore Me] #40
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Re: Will Planetside 2 be playable with a gamepad / xbox 360 controller?


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All the PC elitist claim a mouse and keyboard is more precise and gives you an advantage, let's see the data.


Do you want me to get Captain Obvious?

I'd like you to play a round of quake/dod/tf2 with your gamepad. Please give me your "data" afterwards...

You don't need data for this...

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Old 2012-07-11, 11:16 AM   [Ignore Me] #41
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you couldn't pay me to play FPS games on a console, they're terrible!
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Old 2012-07-11, 11:32 AM   [Ignore Me] #42
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They have auto aim because they dumbed the game down so they would be more accessible to more people. Not all console FPS have always had autoaim.

They don't have cross platform because Xbox live already has plenty of gamers to fill the online scene, they dont need PC players and they certainly don't need to spend money to host servers haha are you guys really that ignorant. PS3 is releasing a game that will be cross platform, for the first time console players and pc players will play together, and guess what they discovered after doing unbiased test? EACH OPTION HAS ITS OWN ADVANATAGES

I have played with both and they each have their advantages

Tournament pc players use a keyboard and mouse because that's what their use to, just as a console player would destroy you with a controller.

Show me the cold hard facts, the data, not opinions. We already had a thread about this months ago and a dev from PS2 that maps controllers popped in and said pretty much everything you are saying is false. A controller can be equally successful if the devs program it right.


1.  Comfort -- Controllers allow you to sit back, relax, and play much easier and better from your sofa or from a kicked back and relaxed posture.

2.  Immersion -- Controllers are better at keeping your focus on the game. And let’s face it, it’s all about the experience.

3.  Natural -- Controllers offer a more natural interface; they are built to feel better in your hands than a keyboard and mouse.

4.  Familiar -- Controllers are more familiar to gamers because many gamers grew up playing on consoles first.

5.  Multiple key presses simultaneously -- Controllers allow you to perform multiple actions at the same time, which is important in many games (e.g., go ahead and try to move, rotate your camera, and cast a seldomly used ability in World of Warcraft all at the same time with a keyboard & mouse. Let us know how that feels and works for you).

6.  Pain -- Controllers help reduce repetitive stress injury and neck pain; controllers have better ergonomics, especially over long periods of time.

7.  Easy to learn and use -- Controllers are easier and more fun to learn than a keyboard and mouse.

8.  Standard -- We have a dozen real arcade machines -- none of which have a keyboard and/or mouse interface. The game controller is a natural progression of the “old school” joysticks and buttons.

9.  Support -- Even in a game for PC elitists, like Battlefield 3, support is provided for a game controller right out of the box.

10. Expense -- Want to push several keys at once on the PC? You’re going to need a expensive mechanical keyboard. When using a controller, you can push all 10+ buttons on even the cheapest of controllers at once.

11. Speed -- Anything fast paced is better with a controller; racing games, brawlers such as Shank, Street Fighter, Just Cause 2, etc.

12. Intended use -- Controllers are designed to play games; keyboards and mice are designed to type Word documents and navigate interfaces.
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Old 2012-07-11, 11:43 AM   [Ignore Me] #43
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People certainly exaggerate the difference between keyboard and mouse vs gamepad, and it probably won't be as big of a difference in a game like Planetside, but be realistic Kush. You can't do a split second 163 degree turn and then headshot someone who was 30m away and quite a bit below you in a fast paced game like quake or UT with a controller (without aim assist).

As you said, both controllers have their advantages, but mouse and keyboard has the advantage of being able to be both very fast, as well as very accurate. This plays heavily into FPS skills, which makes a mouse the superior FPS controlling device. The difference is just narrowed in games that cater towards some of the features that help FPS games work better on consoles, such as ADS for example, but that doesn't make it a level playing field.

Are they still planning on doing cross platform gameplay support for CS:GO on the PC and PS3? That could be a nice opportunity to look at some statistics. You know valve loves their statistics.
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Old 2012-07-11, 11:45 AM   [Ignore Me] #44
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lol, buy a mouse noob. Xbox controller... damn console-player generation....
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Old 2012-07-11, 11:53 AM   [Ignore Me] #45
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Re: Will Planetside 2 be playable with a gamepad / xbox 360 controller?


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People certainly exaggerate the difference between keyboard and mouse vs gamepad, and it probably won't be as big of a difference in a game like Planetside, but be realistic Kush. You can't do a split second 163 degree turn and then headshot someone who was 30m away and quite a bit below you in a fast paced game like quake or UT with a controller (without aim assist).

As you said, both controllers have their advantages, but mouse and keyboard has the advantage of being able to be both very fast, as well as very accurate. This plays heavily into FPS skills, which makes a mouse the superior FPS controlling device. The difference is just narrowed in games that cater towards some of the features that help FPS games work better on consoles, such as ADS for example, but that doesn't make it a level playing field.

Are they still planning on doing cross platform gameplay support for CS:GO on the PC and PS3? That could be a nice opportunity to look at some statistics. You know valve loves their statistics.
I agree. Quake is the one game that I clearly see the keyboard and mouse being better. Halo is a game I see the controller being better. It depends on what the game is tailored to.

Yes they have a cross platform game coming out for PC and PS3, so far the data shows no clear advantages for either setup.

I personally will be using a keyboard and mouse, but I want the game to have equal opportunities for controllers. Not only does it bring in more players who aren't familiar or comfortable with a keyboard/mouse, but it helps the guy who posted in the old thread that has arthritis. Also it is nice to sit back and relax, something a controller is much better as doing especially if you sit at a desk all day and just want to drink a beer and chill on the couch.
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