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Old 2012-03-27, 09:27 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Pageant contestant disqualified over strange circumstances.


Here's the contestant, 23-year-old Jenna Talackova:


She was competing in the "Miss Universe Canada" pageant, which is about the dumbest pageant name ever.


Banned from the pageant! Imagine that. This nice girl? Who'd have thought.



Yeah. Turns out she was born male.

Miss Universe Canada officials have banned 23-year-old transsexual Jenna Talackova, who was born a boy, from competing in the pageant finals to be held in Toronto, Canada in May, 2012.

Talackova, from Vancouver, was one of sixty-five women chosen to compete in the contest, which is owned by Donald Trump.

The Daily Mail reports that Denis Davila, national director of Miss Universe Canada, said every contestant must be a "naturally born female."

Talackova felt that she was a girl by age four, started hormone therapy at fourteen and had sex reassignment surgery at nineteen.

She's previously competed in both transsexual and women's beauty pageants.

Talackova told the National Post: "All I can say is that they disqualified me because I'm not 'natural born.' [That] doesn't make sense because since I was conscious, I always felt this way."

After being kicked out of the pageant, Talackova tweeted: "I'm disqualified, however I'm not giving up. I'm not going to just let them disqualify me over discrimination."

Online support for Talackova is growing. People have started a petition, on Change.org, demanding that she be allowed to compete.
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Old 2012-03-27, 09:39 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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That's bullshit. I hope she gets back in.
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Old 2012-03-27, 09:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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That's a man, baby!

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Old 2012-03-27, 10:08 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Originally Posted by TheSHiFT View Post
That's bullshit. I hope she gets back in.
She might. Her story was on the front page of my local newspaper. When it comes to social issues we Canadians are generally fairly good at seeking justice, provided it doesn't involve natives. Hell, we just ruled in favour of legal brothels here in Ontario. So this time next year you'll probably be able to drive up here to get legal prostitutes (who may or may not have been born men).
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Old 2012-03-27, 10:36 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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Maybe I'm an ass...But I don't see this as a big unjust civil right issue.


I guess the case can be made that this interferes with her future livelihood? Maybe? Like...similar to being fired from a job due to be transsexual?

That her identity is tied to be a woman...therefore she should compete with other women?

I dunno, I'm a bit indifferent.
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Old 2012-03-27, 11:14 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Originally Posted by Vecha View Post
Maybe I'm an ass...But I don't see this as a big unjust civil right issue.
If she were born a female and were disqualified for being a lesbian, would your opinion be any different? Why or why not?
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Old 2012-03-28, 02:08 AM   [Ignore Me] #7
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First question would be, does it say in the rules they have to be BORN a woman, or that they have to be a woman?
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Old 2012-03-28, 02:25 AM   [Ignore Me] #8
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I will say this. If they ban this woman because she used to be a male, and got plastic surgery to become a female...

Shouldn't they ban ALL women that have ever been "modified" by the knife? Be it a nose job, a boob job...whatever?

Just my two cents.
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Old 2012-03-28, 02:25 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Originally Posted by Figment View Post
First question would be, does it say in the rules they have to be BORN a woman, or that they have to be a woman?
Well, that's a tricky question. Mainly because beauty contests are privately funded events so they can make up the rules as they go.
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Old 2012-03-28, 04:12 AM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Heard about this yesterday.

It's ridiculous. If she'd changed gender at age 23 and was quite clearly an "ex-man" with a voice an octave or two too low, I could somewhat understand. However, she's a boy-turned-girl-turned-woman, not a boy-turned-man-turned-woman...She quite clearly qualifies for the objective merits upon which these contests are based. If there was a beautiful ovary contest, or "most impressive flow" contest, then you might have some basis for disqualifying this lady, but otherwise? No.
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Old 2012-03-28, 05:56 AM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Another homosexual trying to make the world bow down to his wishes. What's next? Having sex with children, claiming that you are really a child trapped in an adult's body?
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Old 2012-03-28, 07:21 AM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Another homosexual trying to make the world bow down to his wishes. What's next? Having sex with children, claiming that you are really a child trapped in an adult's body?
Traak, are you really this insane or are you just trolling us?
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Old 2012-03-28, 07:24 AM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Does it even matter anymore? Ban the Bigot.
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Old 2012-03-28, 07:42 AM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Originally Posted by Traak View Post
Another homosexual trying to make the world bow down to his wishes. What's next? Having sex with children, claiming that you are really a child trapped in an adult's body?
Shut the fuck up, you cocksucker.
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Old 2012-03-28, 07:44 AM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Originally Posted by Vecha View Post
Maybe I'm an ass...But I don't see this as a big unjust civil right issue.


I guess the case can be made that this interferes with her future livelihood? Maybe? Like...similar to being fired from a job due to be transsexual?

That her identity is tied to be a woman...therefore she should compete with other women?

I dunno, I'm a bit indifferent.
It's just a sad example of intolerance. That other people can't accept that she self-identifies as a female. Basically, taking agency away from her to identify herself as she likes, and not respecting her as an individual who knows best for themselves.
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