News: "Theme" Week Common Pool? - Page 8

Hamma · 2012-01-17, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by BlazingSun

Common Pool "week" ... when will the next vehicle be "revealed"?

Thought it would all be last week - guess not

Looks like they have changed the way they are doing it.

Metalsheep · 2012-01-17, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Knocky

Curious as hell about the Lightning. They confirmed it in and that it would be different since the MBTs are gunned by the drivers. What role could a Lightning possibly have?

I remember hearing somewhere that the Lightning was going to be the new AA vehicle. Like the skyguard, but one man. Dont remember where exactly that info is at.

Erendil · 2012-01-17, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by FriendlyFire

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Just say'n.

Your point?

You're not suggesting the Lib and B-17 couldn't provide similar roles in their respective settings simply because the B-17 was larger or had more armament, are you?

Originally Posted by Coreldan

More maneuverable, turret could be faster at moving, you can probably customize the main gun, while with ES tanks you will always control the big ass turret while the secondary gunner gets the customizable thing (AI, AV, AA), cheaper (resources) to pull, lower cooldown.

Some ideas there

Yep. The Lightning should have a much faster top speed as well as faster acceleration, turning speed, braking, and better torque so it can dance circles around its larger cousins and go over rough terrain faster than a MBT can. And it should have a smaller profile so it'll be harder to hit. I'm hoping the Lightning will still get 2 weapons on its turret too so it can effectively engage 2 types of targets instead of just AV like a solo MBT.

And I hope to God that it's a helluva lot more accurate at long range than the MBTs are otherwise it'll still get torn to shreds by them. In PS1 you could get fairly close to a MBT (well, the Prowler/Vanguard anyway.. Mag, not so much...) and do strafing runs with a Lightning since most gunners couldn't hit you reliably enough to kill you before you could zoom back behind cover. But looking at the Prowler/Vanguard muzzle velocities and flat arc in the The9 footage it looks like that'll no longer be the case, and your average MBT gunner is going to be able to hit moving targets from a lot further away than they could in PS1.

They could also go the glass cannon route and give that 75mm one helluva punch like the Panther's 75mm or the Allies' 17-pounder.

Originally Posted by Knocky

Curious as hell about the Lightning. They confirmed it in and that it would be different since the MBTs are gunned by the drivers. What role could a Lightning possibly have?

I really really hope that they don't change the base model too much from the original. The Lightning was by far my favorite vehicle in PS1 and I'd be pissed if they made it a different beast than it was. IMO it needs some tweaks here and there to be an attractive choice when next to a solo MBT. But not an overhaul - unless it comes in the form of tons of customization....

FriendlyFire · 2012-01-17, 01:06 PM

Erendil, I was suggesting that the cockpit is in a very similar position to the B-17. They both have very similar features.

SKYeXile · 2012-01-17, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Metalsheep

I remember hearing somewhere that the Lightning was going to be the new AA vehicle. Like the skyguard, but one man. Dont remember where exactly that info is at.

Yea it was written somewhere...hope it uses low penetration high rate of fire 20mm-35mm's and isn't some mobile SAM site of +6 to homosexuality.

Knocky · 2012-01-17, 03:40 PM

Something like this?

Erendil · 2012-01-17, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by FriendlyFire

Erendil, I was suggesting that the cockpit is in a very similar position to the B-17. They both have very similar features.

Doh! Sorry, my bad.

Uh, yeah, you're right..

They are pretty similar, in both usage and design.

SKYeXile · 2012-01-17, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Knocky

Something like this?

yea thats sorta what i expect. i imagine if going to AA it would be only able to do that, maybe still have the 12mm? or at least the main gun do some AI damage. not like bF3 though where it molests infantry and their children's children for generations.

atone · 2012-01-17, 05:11 PM

"Its powerful engine and heavy mass also allows it to push almost any other vehicle out of its way, including tanks."

I'm telling you, a plow blade has to be a custom attachment

NewSith · 2012-01-17, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Metalsheep

I remember hearing somewhere that the Lightning was going to be the new AA vehicle. Like the skyguard, but one man. Dont remember where exactly that info is at.

In my thread in the idea vault. But it was never confirmed officially.

Raka Maru · 2012-01-18, 11:31 AM

I don't see what could be bad about making the lib like an ac130 specter with more firepower. The 150mm gun would work like flying artillery, there you go...

Talek Krell · 2012-01-18, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by NewSith

In my thread in the idea vault. But it was never confirmed officially.

To be fair, I think pretty much everybody has been running on that assumption.

I predict that the Lightning will become the swiss army knife vehicle. Short on AA? Pull a Lightning. Need flanking support for the MBTs? Lightning. Swarms of infantry? There's a Lightning mod for that!

Goredan · 2012-01-19, 01:18 PM

Someone else said it too, but the Liberator reminds me of the Mi-24 Hind

FriendlyFire · 2012-01-19, 01:24 PM

I see your Hind and raise you a Flying Fortress: