Systems: Muscular Implant.

[NewSith]

There were still no information about implants being removed,so my idea's this:

Sniper. Carrying a sniper rifle and a pistol. Even with active camo, this one's dead body. How about an implant/skill that allows you to carry an SMG instead of a pistol.


Many games have that sort of thing - BF3 (G18), APB (Uzi), Crysis 2 (Double-Loadout Mod), etc. I mean I already forsee you giving an SMG by default to an AV Heavy Assault, while leaving sniper with only his beamer to pewpew in cqb. That's faulty.

[Lonehunter]

A Sniper with a shotty or SMG is usually the reason for a very long kill streak in other FPSs. Not sure I like it, I really think Pistols should be designed to be an adequate side arm for infantry.

Infiltration Snipers are getting some kind of Scout Rifle for mid-long range combat I think, plus SMGs, plus maybe Shotguns. So if you want to be effective close range you should just choose one of those as your primary. Being able to kill anyone 1 on 1 before you even get in their range is powerful, still having equal odds against them if they manage to close the space is a lil too much power in my opinion

[NewSith]

Originally Posted by Lonehunter

A Sniper with a shotty or SMG is usually the reason for a very long kill streak in other FPSs. Not sure I like it, I really think Pistols should be designed to be an adequate side arm for infantry.

Infiltration Snipers are getting some kind of Scout Rifle for mid-long range combat I think, plus SMGs, plus maybe Shotguns. So if you want to be effective close range you should just choose one of those as your primary. Being able to kill anyone 1 on 1 before you even get in their range is powerful, still having equal odds against them if they manage to close the space is a lil too much power in my opinion

Think about this:
With means for close combat sniper cqb skill increases gradually.
Without them it is either "you see him close range he's dead" or "you see him close range, YOU're dead", no mid-state. Thus more whine about snipers, them and about them being OP.

And now imagine that everything you do for the living in the game is snipe. Feel the difference?

[Purple]

Originally Posted by NewSith

Think about this:
With means for close combat sniper cqb skill increases gradually.
Without them it is either "you see him close range he's dead" or "you see him close range, YOU're dead", no mid-state. Thus more whine about snipers, them and about them being OP.

And now imagine that everything you do for the living in the game is snipe. Feel the difference?

i never like snipers in FPS. i hope a head shot doesn't 1 hit kill like in PS1 that way snipers will have to be good and wait for opportunities where people wont have enough time to get back into cover or hit people who are already damaged. if people get to snipe when i want arty.

[NewSith]

Originally Posted by Purple

i never like snipers in FPS. i hope a head shot doesn't 1 hit kill like in PS1 that way snipers will have to be good and wait for opportunities where people wont have enough time to get back into cover or hit people who are already damaged. if people get to snipe when i want arty.

It's heavily dependent on TTK. Being a good sniper I was able to kill JH users close range with boltdriver, because TTK of the best close range weapon in the game allowed for it. But if you take battlefield 3's TTK for example, minus the stupid aim-effecting suppression, 2-shot snipers will just be utterly useless close range, they won't even have time to reload, so HS OSOK is a must have.

[Purple]

Originally Posted by NewSith

It's heavily dependent on TTK. Being a good sniper I was able to kill JH users close range with boltdriver, because TTK of the best close range weapon in the game allowed for it. But if you take battlefield 3's TTK for example, minus the stupid aim-effecting suppression, 2-shot snipers will just be utterly useless close range, they won't even have time to reload, so HS OSOK is a must have.

What? why would a sniper be at close range. sinpers in this game arnt the kind of class that goes up with the forces and gets a 1shot kill headshot at 2 feet. no PS2 snipers are for long range only if they are going close range they will have the option of getting a shotgun. and they will have a pistol for close range.

[NewSith]

Originally Posted by Purple

What? why would a sniper be at close range. sinpers in this game arnt the kind of class that goes up with the forces and gets a 1shot kill headshot at 2 feet. no PS2 snipers are for long range only if they are going close range they will have the option of getting a shotgun. and they will have a pistol for close range.

Excuse me, but that's a shitty agrument. Why do medics need a gun? Why do AV soldiers need a rifle?

[PrISM]

I thought this was going to be about an implant that allowed you to punch through walls like Adam Jensen.

[YaJackWagon]

Originally Posted by PrISM

I thought this was going to be about an implant that allowed you to punch through walls like Adam Jensen.

Yeah. I was expecting something like higher jumping, faster melee RoF, and/or less recoil.
Instead I get "give snipers their camp rifle AND an smg."


Op: From what I understand, the Infiltrator is going to function much like the Recon in 2142.
You choose either a sniper rifle so you can hit from long range and use cloak to sneak away to a new position, but you're screwed if you let anyone figure out where you are and then get in close. A pistol is the only backup you ought to get.
Or, you can use cloak to sneak into the enemy position, then open up with a smg/carbine and cause general chaos. But you're screwed if you can't do the sneaking to get in close.

Rock-Paper-Scissors dude, you gotta choose a weakness.

[NewSith]

Originally Posted by YaJackWagon

Rock-Paper-Scissors dude, you gotta choose a weakness.

NO it's Paper-Scissors with sniper missing all fingers.