2002 going on 1984

Navaron · 2002-12-28, 06:39 PM

http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/4822973.htm

Hehe.

Not really, but people sure are letting go of a lot of individual freedoms.

Here's a little fact for you: Of the last 40 aircraft highjackings where the pilot had a firearm; 39 of them had a successful landing at an intended airport with injury to the highjacker only. The other was when the employee snuck into the plane and killed the pilot and copilot before the plane took off. So why don't we have guns in the cockpit??? *Warning - Don't make up facts, I'm an Aviation Administration major specializing in Security - I *own* this subject.

"Crime has gone down threefold in communities where firearms can legally be concealed with out a permit."

Toimu · 2002-12-28, 06:43 PM

I live in TX. My dads side of the family came from TN. I'm with you 100%.

I was 8 when I shot my 1st gun. I was in the boyscouts.

�io · 2002-12-28, 06:53 PM

Well i was gonna post in this thread but seeing as Navaron already 0wnz this thread i'll move on.

Seriously i think a firearm in the cockpit isn't a bad idea provded security mesures are taken so that the gun in the cockpit doesn't become the problem itself.

Navaron · 2002-12-28, 06:53 PM

OOOOOOOO For bonus points and a chance for the berserker round -

What was the name of the equivelant "office of homeland security" in the book 1984?

Mistled, you can't answer this. Sorry. Gotta give someone else a chance.

�io · 2002-12-28, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by Toimu
I live in TX. My dads side of the family came from TN. I'm with you 100%.

I was 8 when I shot my 1st gun. I was in the boyscouts.

One of the many things that scares me of the US and TX in particular. It's like a enormous gun club or something.

Navaron · 2002-12-28, 06:58 PM

Hey Dio,

"Seriously i think a firearm in the cockpit isn't a bad idea provded security mesures are taken so that the gun in the cockpit doesn't become the problem itself. "

That is a common concern, however, it is not common knowledge, but there is a 14 lb crash axe mounted directly behind the pilots seat. This has killed 2 would-be highjackers. That axe is designed to cut through the skin of the plane to get the pilots out. In a 5 foot radius like you have, I'd say that the axe is less of a concern than the pistol.

�io · 2002-12-28, 07:02 PM

Yeah but what i mean is stuff like making sure it's in a lock safe in case a would-be hijacker tries to grab it and also prevent it from going off during flight (would be a bummer

) and other accidents and potentiel dangers like that. Basically more or less the same measures for any other dangerous weapon in a public area.

Navaron · 2002-12-28, 07:07 PM

Hmmm.

If it's in a lock safe, it's not really easily accessible. But if it's on the guys ankle - then the high jacker has to get down there - past the co pilot - grap the pistol - which might or might not be there - and then use it. Without getting his skull crushed. I don't know but I sure as hell wouldn't rush a cockpit if I knew there might be two .40s pointing at me. Plus, you still have to get the clearance to weild the weapon - and on a plane at that. It'd be such a hassle that only a few people would attempt it, and of those only a few would qualify.

Hamma · 2002-12-28, 07:49 PM

I live in the US and TX scares me dio.

�io · 2002-12-28, 07:52 PM

Yeah never thought about putting it on the pilot himself.

Originally posted by Hamma
I live in the US and TX scares me dio.

Still the rest of the US is still pretty into the gun craze.

Hamma · 2002-12-28, 07:57 PM

Not all of us are.

�io · 2002-12-28, 08:01 PM

Well i'm not saying everybody has a gun but i'm sure nearly every american here on PSU knows at least 1 person with a gun. I do not. That's why i said the US scares me.

Navaron · 2002-12-28, 08:05 PM

I'm no gun toting freak, but I would like to know - What's wrong with a citizens having guns? Criminals will always have guns, so what is wrong with the law abiding joe having a gun in his home?

I want to say that it was Cincinatti, but anyway, they required all weapons that were purchased to be finger printed. Every handgun leaves a unique print on the back of the casing, these casings were collected and put on file. Crime did not go down at all, and not one of the firearms registered was used in any criminal activity.

The point is that crimes will always be committed and people need the ability to defend themselves in a congruent fashion.

�io · 2002-12-28, 08:14 PM

Yeah defending yourself is great and all but is it worth the number of gun related deaths or serious injuries?

How many times have we heard stories about a guy coming home to find his wife with another guy, he gets his gun and his a moment of "temporary insanity" kills him. There's a whole bunch of stories like that where nothing would have ever happened if a gun wasn't involded.

Guns just = me

Navaron · 2002-12-28, 08:15 PM

How many times do you hear that some guy got pissed off and grabbed a bat and killed someone or put them in a hospital? No one gripes about baseball bats.