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2013-05-04, 04:59 AM | [Ignore Me] #17 | |||
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"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war, and now there ain't no going back. I mean shit, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it! If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight. " Slim Charles aka Tallman - The Wire BRTD Mumble Server powered by Gamercomms |
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2013-05-04, 05:04 AM | [Ignore Me] #19 | ||
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I look at this from two angles.
Firstly I expected this. It goes with the territory of FTP. However, I think SOE are going at it too hard. Too many guns released too often. It feels like they're trying to milk their customers. They are selling power and not just cosmetics and boosts and I know this is mitigated because everything can be bought with certs but it is leaving a 'taste' in my mouth. My advice is to cool it for a little while. |
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2013-05-04, 05:44 AM | [Ignore Me] #20 | ||
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The problem I have with the nerfing/buffing and release of new weapons is only one: costs.
If weapons would be cheaper I would spend more SC on it. But currently I am on hold and only buy SC on tripple sale and weapons when they are on store sale. 10 bucks for a single gun is just too much for a game aiming at having hundreds. And then we haven't even talked about cosmetics (which I think where a f2ps main income should be, but that's my opinion). I would happily buy more weapons, if I wouldn't know that there are coming more versatile (or maybe even better) weapons down the road. I have also bought plenty of weapons which are now more or less obsolete or turned out not to be as good as one might have thought and are just sitting there never being used. If weapons would be cheaper I think it would also be less of a problem (especially) when they are nerfed. For a gun I only payed one or two bucks I don't care if it's not as great as when I bough it (as long as it's not nerfed into the ground). But when you payed 10 bucks for it? A fifth of the price of a full game? Completely different matter. And to go a bit off-topic: For me that's less of an issue (although I still consider it to be one). But for a new user who doesn't know about double or tripple sc sales? I can completely understand when they turn away when looking at the store. I know we all love sc sales but I would even go out and say I would prefer soe to cut tripple sc sales and have less double sc sales. And in return lower all sc prices in the store. And on a closing note: we need more loadout slots if you want to sell us more stuff. And please don't sell those. That would be a dickish move. Last edited by Emperor Newt; 2013-05-04 at 05:47 AM. |
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2013-05-04, 05:45 AM | [Ignore Me] #21 | |||
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"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war, and now there ain't no going back. I mean shit, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it! If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight. " Slim Charles aka Tallman - The Wire BRTD Mumble Server powered by Gamercomms |
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2013-05-04, 06:21 AM | [Ignore Me] #22 | |||
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edit: logged in and checked Edit: Thanks for the idea (and confirmation of said idea working) to troll some of you via testing crap out in the VR.
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Retired NC CR5, Cerberus Company. Not currently playing PS2. Anyone with a similar name is not me. My only characters are listed in my stats profile here on PSU. Last edited by p0intman; 2013-05-04 at 06:36 AM. |
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2013-05-04, 06:28 AM | [Ignore Me] #23 | ||
it would be nice hehe, though all it means is it's unlocked and added to your stats page not live play. I think just as if you'd trialed it.
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"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war, and now there ain't no going back. I mean shit, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it! If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight. " Slim Charles aka Tallman - The Wire BRTD Mumble Server powered by Gamercomms |
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2013-05-04, 03:18 PM | [Ignore Me] #24 | ||
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If SOE would intentionally release new weapons overpowered, only to nerf them after launch, they would screw up their own business model which is heavily based on customer loyalty and retention purchases.
It's the player base continuity that keeps their offices running. Last thing they want is for the 5% that pays for this game to become disgruntled and turn their back on them. So no, this is definitely not intentional. Of course you have always haters like OP that gonna hate and who fail to see otherwise. |
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2013-05-05, 04:14 AM | [Ignore Me] #26 | |||
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Why? Because obviously you're a gamer, and all gamers know that you DO NOT pull funds from other games you're itching to play. Instead, You eat less, you skimp on gas, you turn down friends that want to go to the bar or out to restaurants, you use the credit card more, you hold off on paying your bills on time... You do whatever you have to do to pay for the games you're looking forward to. Saying that your money either has to go to PS2 OR those other games is retarded. How much cash are the most expensive weapons in the game? $7.00? The cost for all the games you've listed comes out to $435. As of March 9th, the cost to buy every weapon for a single faction was $327. So even if you DID buy every weapon, unless you're talking about cosmetics as well...You'd still have $108 leftover that you wouldn't be putting into Planetside. But you don't need to buy every weapon. You choose a carbine you like, you buy that. You choose a rocket launcher you like, you buy that...it serves you well until SOE releases a new rocket launcher that's a little bit better, you buy that. This is all small change compared to the $435 you claim you'd be throwing in to Planetside if they fixed these "issues". Think of it like this...You buy the gun that you think is the best. It gives you an advantage over the other players that have not bought the new gun. It serves you well for awhile, meaning you get your money's worth out of it. Later on, they release a NEW gun that's better than the one you bought. Now, you can decide whether you want to hold off and buy it later with certs and be at a slight disadvantage for awhile, or you can buy it with cash right away and remain on top with the advantage. Either way, you still got your money's worth out of the first gun. The only time this wouldn't be acceptable is if SOE released a better gun, reaped the rewards, and then IMMEDIATELY released an even better gun. This is the business model for Planetside 2. It works fine. Weapons are just going to become somewhat weaker over time as new weapons are released. |
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2013-05-05, 04:36 AM | [Ignore Me] #27 | |||
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But you don't need to assume bad faith to realise weapons are going to get nerfed. Examine the process; a gun is produced, it is tested internally and on PST and released. However it is only after a few weeks of constant use that the mass player-base becomes used to it and also that the devs have stats and can observe playstyle changes. It's inevitable that weapons will be adjusted based on how they actually work out in-game and that may possibly be a buff, but then a buff for one weapon corresponds to a nerf elsewhere. |
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2013-05-05, 09:19 AM | [Ignore Me] #30 | ||
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I do find everything in the store to be too steep for my gaming budget. Only way I would buy stuff is if I have triple SC money and the item itself is on sale, then the prices becomes more acceptable. I would not pay more than 1-2$ for one item, ever. I'd rather get some cool game for the price of one of those new cool helmets in steam instead, most of the items are too similar in appearance too so I dont even have any temptation to buy items, the new helmets I would be willing to buy but not at the current price. For now I'm just sitting on my stack of 17670 SC.
Though weapon balance I dont have an issue with, I know it can be hard to balance a new gun immediately after release and it's easier to make stuff too good than bad. I'm bit miffed by the fracture guns on TR maxes though, I feel they're awesomely powerful and I keep getting blown to bits in a second by them. I just knew they're gonna be used against infantry before release. Last edited by Vashyo; 2013-05-05 at 09:20 AM. |
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