Outfit Rivalry Discussion

[Neurotoxin]

Originally Posted by captainkapautz

I have to say I still don't see the point.

I mean if I really don't like an outfit then I won't really need an incentive to want to fuck their shit up.

But what about a method to locate them more rapidly, in order to do this?

[Ratstomper]

Originally Posted by captainkapautz

I have to say I still don't see the point.

I mean if I really don't like an outfit then I won't really need an incentive to want to fuck their shit up.

I'm more interested in a system to better mobilize to an area where a rival outfit is, although having some slight XP bonuses for fighting rivals outfits does sound cool.

EDIT: What if instead of declaring a rival, the system automatically assigned rival outfits when two outfits fight frequently enough?

[lMABl]

Originally Posted by Kilmoran

Gamifying... a natural occurance based on things that occur without the aid of a system, I believe, is unnecessary.

Originally Posted by captainkapautz

I agree with that.

I also think that this system could be used for the exact opposite if it gave rewards, i.e. 2 outfits each other rivals just to get the xp-bonus.

I also agree with that.

I think that putting in a system like that would cause a constant tracking and hunting of the rival outfit, it would take away the core idea of faction vs faction and turn into outfit vs outfit.

[Logri]

Would this system also somewhat limit a player in joining an outfit.
Still not sure how big of an impact a system like this would have, but some people might not be interested in having an extra bullseye on their back.

So, when joining an outfit the question: are you into rivalries, would become important.

[captainkapautz]

Originally Posted by Neurotoxin

But what about a method to locate them more rapidly, in order to do this?

Let me just say I am not saying it can't work, I just thing it's more fun, for lack of a better word, to have this play out naturally without having the game "help" you.

I.e. "OMG LOOK ITS [LULZWEPOONNOOBZRAWR] LETS GET EM!" during a fight, than "So where is [LULZWEPOONNOOBZRAWR] at today, so we can roflstomp them." and then head to where ever the rival is at.

Edit: And I highly dislike the ability to actually track the whereabouts of enemy outfits, that just leads to easier griefing, i.e. big outfit hunting a small outfit to "extinction".
Have seen that happen before in other games.

[Logri]

Originally Posted by captainkapautz

Let me just say I am not saying it can't work, I just thing it's more fun, for lack of a better word, to have this play out naturally without having the game "help" you.

I.e. "OMG LOOK ITS [LULZWEPOONNOOBZRAWR] LETS GET EM!" during a fight, than "So where is [LULZWEPOONNOOBZRAWR] at today, so we can roflstomp them." and then head to where ever the rival is at.

I wouldn't like running into the same group of people everywhere I went, I die way too easily and would be excellent farm bait tbh.

[Dart]

Erm, giving two rival spec ops Outfits the ability to know where each other was would effectively nullify both of their playstyles!

Unnecessary and potentially damaging idea.

[captainkapautz]

I mean it's not a bad idea per say, it would just need to be very, VERY carefully balanced, because otherwise it could, and probably would, go horribly wrong.

[Neurotoxin]

Well... that's why we're here. Let us discuss what we WOULD want in an Outfit Rivalry system!!

[Pella]

What a terrible idea. So much effort into something that will restrict the actual flow of game play. OP is obviously trying to reinvent the wheel here.

What next? zombie mode.....

[captainkapautz]

I have to admit I only know what I, personally, WOULDN'T want.

And that would be any kinda of incentive for being rivals and the ability to somehow "track" rivals, because I think that could be exploited to easily.

But that'd be the only real point to it wouldn't it?

Yeah, sorry I ain't much help with this.

[Neurotoxin]

Originally Posted by Pella

What next? zombie mode.....

That's crazy talk man, crazy talk. There will be no zombie mode in PS2...


So far, I can see that these things are not wanted:

- Methods to track another outfit

- Incentives that will make outfits farm each other

- Incentives that will make outfits leave the major battles for personal gains

[Pella]

If you looked at the planetside APP. You could see outfit stats like Kill ratio ect.

This in itself will create Rivalry and competitive play between decent outfits.

[SixShooter]

Rivalry will happen by itself without anything different happening in game. I would not be supprised to see a user created app to specifically track this type of stuff which is would be great, just none of the in game tracking and hunting rival outfits. I like some of the ideas in the OP but most of it will leave too much opportunity for exploitation and greifing and the like.

[SgtMAD]

join a decent outfit and step up,if you guys are worth a shit there will be plenty of ppl that hate you.

rivalries will happen naturally,quit trying to force a false dynamic into the game,the seeds are already there.

ppl hating you is the best tool for recruiting.

I loved be hated,I'm going to do it all over again