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View Poll Results: What is the best AV
Striker 8 17.02%
Lancer 6 12.77%
Phonix 33 70.21%
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Old 2004-02-13, 06:31 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Originally Posted by Queensidecastle
On its own, the lancer is just ass, unless your shooting at MAXs and lightnings, but no other AV can "scale" like the Lancer can. Even phoenix's in packs cant compare to what a focused pack of Lancers can pull off. Now since the AV cert will be as common as the MA cert (thanks devs, nice one) we can expect huge packs of AV users. That coupled with the upcoming landmine buff and its going to be a really hostile time for Vehicles in PS
Yeah, the days of the 3 cert Tank scoring dozens of easy kills against "soft" targets before finally being taken down are coming to an end. Good.

IMHO Vehicles are an easy ride to victory in many occasions. I can't even begin to count my Reaver kills against infantry I busted in the open. Since alone or in small packs they can't fight back... you can rack up an impressive amount of "free" kills with the Reaver and empire talks... Skyguards and Lightnings also can fill this role to a slightly lesser extent.

One of the most "impressive" (50K kill leaderboard superstar) players I've seen in action would get a Magmower and go on a mowing frenzy... when he lost his mag, it was Reaver hunting soft target time, when he lost the reaver the mag was available again, etc. when the vehicle terminal and CY was lost it was boomer in packed hallway time. Each Magmower run racked up 3-12 mowings, each reaver run against snipers and stragglers raked in 4-6 kills, and each boomer garnished 1-5 kills... so hoplessly defending a zerg raked in about 100-150 kills in 2 hours of playing. Amusing and lame at the same time. But, you can't beat the formula of: Find an over powered tactic and exploit the balance weakness over and over and over.

Oh and don't forget... never use your OS to help your empire stop the zerg... use it to hit the CY packed with enemies seconds before their hack goes through. This will ensure the maximum free kills of players waiting for the cap exp. Another lame and over played kill count increaser...

No other AV can scale like the lancer? Then I suppose you have never seen a coordinated Phoenix Squad in action then... pure devistation...
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Old 2004-02-14, 12:37 AM   [Ignore Me] #17
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When a tank crew withdraws for repairs, it's one of two situations. First, it's a Vanguard crew, in which case just pull over a ridge and repair. The second scenario is that it's a TR or VS tank crew, and then just pulling over a hill out of line-of-sight becomes inadequate to escape the Phoenix barrage. TR and VS tank crews have to retreat 250m+ to be sure they can repair without getting murdered by the mighty Phoenix.
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Old 2004-02-14, 01:23 AM   [Ignore Me] #18
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I've done grevious harm to vehicles and maxes every day since I could afford the Lancer. Phoenix has strengths, but also serious weaknesses--same with striker. In my mind, the lancer is clearly best all around, at least when you give it to someone with patience and skill. In the hands of a skilless neophyte it may as well be a giant brick.

Outdoors against vehicles, the Phoenix takes the cake. It doesn't have the Lancer's TTK but the ability of the user to blind fire and turn corners does really change the game. Vet is right about tank retreats from the nc--you need to leave very soon, since the missiles follow you a long way.
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Old 2004-02-14, 01:28 AM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Originally Posted by Queensidecastle
Now since the AV cert will be as common as the MA cert (thanks devs, nice one) we can expect huge packs of AV users. That coupled with the upcoming landmine buff and its going to be a really hostile time for Vehicles in PS
The new patch basically amounts to rolling back all the improvements they make to vehicle survivability. I'm not happy about it in the slightest.
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Old 2004-02-14, 02:08 AM   [Ignore Me] #20
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People will be certified AV, but the fact that they mainly carry Decimators won't change. Decimator owns eight ways from Sunday.
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Old 2004-02-14, 10:36 AM   [Ignore Me] #21
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Both my Heavy Grunts deleted all the favorites they had with a Decimator in them. I enjoy the Thumper quite a bit more than the Decimator. I know that I am in the minority on that opinion, however. In it's stead I have been making conscience effort to practice and become proficient with the Rocklet Rifle. It, too, can kill a MAX with reasonable capablity. Not as well as a Decimator, but it does well enough. With the comming ammo box capacity increase it will be an even nicer option.
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