Station Fee for Outfit Creation

[Policenaut]

I haven't read the previous 30ish pages, nor do I intend to, so I'm just gonna say that I think station cash for the creation of outfits is going to be a big turnoff to a lot people.

[Baneblade]

Originally Posted by Policenaut

I haven't read the previous 30ish pages, nor do I intend to, so I'm just gonna say that I think station cash for the creation of outfits is going to be a big turnoff to a lot people.

Not really, because the type of people who start an outfit are the same type of people who don't mind paying for it.

[Flaropri]

Originally Posted by Baneblade

Not really, because the type of people who start an outfit are the same type of people who don't mind paying for it.

All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.


Although actually I'm sure there are some people that wouldn't mind that have no intention of starting an Outfit themselves (whether because they are already committed to one or for some other reason) so I suppose even that analogy isn't wholly appropriate.

[Sledgecrushr]

Originally Posted by Flaropri

All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.


Although actually I'm sure there are some people that wouldn't mind that have no intention of starting an Outfit themselves (whether because they are already committed to one or for some other reason).

If everyone started there own outfit, what a sad state this game would be in. Imagine 666 bosses each telling the other what to do. I certainly would not play on that server. Now the has been some talk about the casual outfits, where ten guys get together and start an outfit but to me this is a recipe for playing a lot of nights by yourself and missing what ps2 is all about which really is about size. When you have large operations it really tends to minimize the importance of one person. So if you really want to be important, to rule the batlefield, then you need to roll with a hundred of your friends with everyone working together as a tight knit cohesive group. But yeah there should be a free starter outfit with room for twenty guys or so.

[PredatorFour]

I still think this will be a terrible idea and agree with alot of peoples thoughts on this. Just imagine if you pay for your outfit on a server but the server is full so you cant play (possibility) what gives your 100 player outfit priority over a 20 outfit that hasnt paid? Will they be kicked to compensate? Its just ridiculous.

[Baneblade]

You outfit status should have no bearing on your login priority... that is what the premium subscription is for.

[Flaropri]

Originally Posted by Sledgecrushr

If everyone started there own outfit, what a sad state this game would be in.

I don't think it would speak to the game being in a bad state, but I do think that if everyone started an Outfit they'd be missing the entire point of it, what with the idea being to form a group.

Imagine 666 bosses each telling the other what to do.

Is that what you're worried about? People doing their own things and not following whatever the "big" guilds are pushing?

And do you really think that everyone who makes an Outfit does it to boss other people (not even in their Outfit) around? Or that everyone and their mother's cousin twice removed will make their own Outfits rather than join an Outfit if they don't have a price barrier?

That seems just as sad to me as everyone being in an Outfit with only one member.

Now the has been some talk about the casual outfits, where ten guys get together and start an outfit but to me this is a recipe for playing a lot of nights by yourself and missing what ps2 is all about which really is about size.

Depends on how close they are, and some people want to play by themselves or with a small group, I don't think that's a bad thing so long as they have fun. Plus small groups tend to lend themselves well to Specialist Operations (whether that's going behind enemy lines or focusing on a specific role on the main line).

But yeah there should be a free starter outfit with room for twenty guys or so.

I still think that number is small, but it's an improvement over "Pay or get nothing."

I also think that selling Outfit decals and uniforms is the better way to monetize Outfits rather than soft pop. limits.


Anyway, I agree with you that the main draw for me personally is getting involved with larger organizations and doing large-scale organized play, including coordinated strikes and Spec Ops units working with a main force etc. I just understand that not everyone who plays the game will feel the same way, and don't feel like we should push them to. They'll still ad to our enjoyment, and maybe over time they'll change their attitude but if not they're having fun so it's all good.

[The Kush]

This thread needs to die. Outfits are part of the core of planetside. The devs would never limit players by requiring them to purchase an outfit. And for the people saying large outfits blah blah there will be too many small outfits blah blah (@blane) you are so wrong it is sad. First off you obviously don't understand how large a "big outfit" was in planetside 1. Planetside 2 has room for several big outfits as well as medium and small outfits. The game will have a mixture of all kinds of outfits. I would rather be in my elite battle tested outfit with 40 of the top guys on the server then a devil dogs outfit that lets anyone in. Its all a matter of opinion. So saying your missing out on the PS experience because you aren't in a large outfit is bull shit. I have played the game since 2004 and I still know guys who went lone wolf the whole game. Not my play style, but to each their own.

[Sledgecrushr]

I think if you want to be in an outfit there should not be a charge. Joining outfits to me is a core part of planetside.

[Nasher]

This would be a bad idea.

[kertvon]

No to outfit creation cost, but a resounding yes to some elite, non P2W outfit sidegrades.

[Crator]

IMO, the ability for anyone to create an outfit (without needing a sub) is going to be dictated by stat tracking. So perhaps they'll want to limit the creation of outfits due to the amount of stats being tracked per outfit... IDK, just something that popped into my head just now that might be a reason they want to limit the outfits.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by Sledgecrushr

If everyone started there own outfit, what a sad state this game would be in. Imagine 666 bosses each telling the other what to do. I certainly would not play on that server. Now the has been some talk about the casual outfits, where ten guys get together and start an outfit but to me this is a recipe for playing a lot of nights by yourself and missing what ps2 is all about which really is about size. When you have large operations it really tends to minimize the importance of one person. So if you really want to be important, to rule the batlefield, then you need to roll with a hundred of your friends with everyone working together as a tight knit cohesive group. But yeah there should be a free starter outfit with room for twenty guys or so.

Actually all smalls outfit can work toguether NC are NC No need to be all in the 666 devil dog, blue lions or sturmgrenadiers !

All those clans are suposed to include everyones in the overall tactics and battle plan !

This is How we rules this game cooperation between clan to achive our empire goal

No need to have super massive zergfits

As long as the clans dont play the (( competiveness )) and dont hate on eachothers , if they follow the same goal everything will be fine !

If their is some outfit specialized in Air domination , some others in infiltration , all those (( subfactions )) are suposed to be up to work with others to achive a certain goal and the possibilities are endless even if we are split in multiples smallers groups !

So all the Zergfits arguments is irrevelant

Also like Lord Acton said : "Absolute power corrupts absolutely"
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."

[Tatwi]

News:

Vangaurd's "Free to Play. Your Way." conversion details have been released.

http://vgplayers.station.sony.com/ne...n=News&id=1424

You must be a monthly subscriber ($14.99 for the game or $19.99 All Access Pass) to create a guild, but anyone can join a guild.

Well, I guess SOE thinks that creating a guild in an MMO is worth $15. Congratulations OP, you've successfully wasted our money.

/tiphat

[jepaul]

I support anything that motivates people to work harder in RL. Mow a yard, pick up an extra shift, panhandle I don't care. Collecting $2 for a game you love shouldn't be to hard.

This should also increase size ls of organized outfits with ts and websites. Should be a good thing for everyone worried about mass fps kiddies.

And let's be honest. Anyone with a computer and high speed Internet can afford $2. Please don't use that excuse it just makes you look desperate and ignorant.