No Heavy Assault LMG deserves .75 ADS speed...VS.

[Dragonskin]

Originally Posted by Dreamcast

Stats?...Dude brb gonna find out the stats.

Look, Im just telling you how it feels in game and what my results are.

I play HA all the time and I can tell .75 does a difference when I used an NS-15 or on my alt with the Orion.....I know it does when ADAD strafing.


Has nothing to do with how good you are at tracking a target...If a person is ADAD faster than you, you will need to move your mouse way more, it will be much easier for him to get the hits on you....Sorry but is a nice advantage...So stop blaming it on player skill.

As for the Orion in close distance, is very good...Sure a shotgun will pretty much own everybody in close distance but an Orion can take on an SMG.....and still be able to outstrafe anybody at meduim Range....Thats a big deal.

I dont care about .75's AR's or Carbines because they don't have two shields.

HA has two shields....add a .75 speed buff....yeah is overkill no matter how u look at it.

Meh, not going to convince me about the .75 thing. The only evidence you have is your "feeling". Which means the only evidence you have is your perception of what is happening instead of actual data to back up your claims. Here is some food for thought for your crusade.

What is the only class that can use a AR? Combat Medic.

What is the only class that has an AOE heal ability on a short cooldown? Combat Medic.

What is the only class with an AOE healing grenade? Combat Medic. They can even get grenade bandoliers like other classes and have 3 of them to toss out.

Which class can have 2 rolling HoTs active at the same time and has access to a spike self heal (med kit)? Oh that would be combat medic.

Starting to look like you should think more about ARs in your crusade to me.

Anyway, nothing else I can add to this conversation. Carry on with your Orion nerf.. or HA shield nerf.. or .75 ADS movement speed nerf.. or whatever you are trying to accomplish with this thread now.

Originally Posted by Ghoest9

If you want to make a case that for some reason VS deserves this particular advantage - fine make the case.
But drop the literally nonsense argument you have been attempting.

No, you missed it. My argument is that he acknowledges that HA's have access to other weapons that have .75 ADS. One of them is specifically a LMG that all factions have access to and the others are .75 by default for all factions.

The answer is that VS don't have a special .75 ADS bonus unique to HA.

So that then turns into a Orion nerf and not a debate about movement speed at all because the thing the Orion excels at that the NS-15m doesn't have is RPM. The NS-15m actually has better bullet velocity meaning in CQC/med range the bullets will hit the target faster than the Orion.