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Old 2002-12-18, 04:33 PM   [Ignore Me] #106
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1. No
2. yes
3. yes
4. yes
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Old 2002-12-18, 04:35 PM   [Ignore Me] #107
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actually. they needed to. from the comments he was making...he obviously hasn't played the game much at all, or isnt very good at it, based on what he said.

it would be like me (i dont play EQ) saying: All EQ is is just running around looking for clothes and quaffing potions and shooting lightning bolts at hobbits.
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Old 2002-12-18, 04:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #108
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what i tried to convery...ineffectively and somewhat rashly at the start was that it would be kinda cool to have jetpacks.

NOT TRIBES 2 FLY ACROSS THE MAP IN 2 BOUNDS AND STAY INT HE AIR FOR 15 SECONDS jetpacks....but simple booster style packs that could let you leave the ground for minimal periods of time....

allowing some more maneuverability to certain attack squads. they would have more vulnerabilities for the added movement.

it was just an idea.

then people came in with OMG we Cant HANVE THat THIs ISNT T2 We AREnt FLyING oveer THE MAP WE NEed TEAMp[alY
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Old 2002-12-18, 04:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #109
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SHE was making HER comments based upon public play. Sure, it is much different in clan and tourney play, but how many casual players got into that?

PS will be very appealing to casual players, in my opinion, because top tier gameplay will not be restricted to clans and tourney alone.

And if you cannot agree with that, apparently you never played on public servers very much The best 'teamplay' I could ever get out of those was rarely getting a bomber crew together. Of course, 90% of the time, the idiot bombardier would instantly drop bombs when he hopped in, killing everyone around him and destroying the bomber I worked so hard to get off the pad and away from the vehicle TKers
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Old 2002-12-18, 04:46 PM   [Ignore Me] #110
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Oh, and Whoracle... There is an edit button you know? Use it!
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Old 2002-12-18, 04:50 PM   [Ignore Me] #111
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Originally posted by Led
SHE was making HER comments based upon public play. Sure, it is much different in clan and tourney play, but how many casual players got into that?

PS will be very appealing to casual players, in my opinion, because top tier gameplay will not be restricted to clans and tourney alone.

And if you cannot agree with that, apparently you never played on public servers very much The best 'teamplay' I could ever get out of those was rarely getting a bomber crew together. Of course, 90% of the time, the idiot bombardier would instantly drop bombs when he hopped in, killing everyone around him and destroying the bomber I worked so hard to get off the pad and away from the vehicle TKers
Actually alot of players got into competition. PS is a very competative game for completely different reasons than tribes. Since we don't have matches in PS we need other ways to satisfy that part of us. Attacking and capturing bases will have to suffice so why not make it interesting. Jetpacks or (quick boosters like the Vanu MAX) would.
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Old 2002-12-18, 04:54 PM   [Ignore Me] #112
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Originally posted by Sandtaco
Oh, and Whoracle... There is an edit button you know? Use it!
did you really need to post that?

probably not. because it wont affect me responding to people with the reply button anyway.

i had nothing to edit so why use the edit button
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Old 2002-12-18, 04:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #113
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Those three posts in a row up there could have asily been edited into one.
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Old 2002-12-18, 04:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #114
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Skilled jetpack infantry would have much higher mobility than any regular infantry, yes? Even if it was only a quick burst for a second or two, people would of course find ways to fight that would yield maximum advantage from it. The way I see it, jetpack infantry would own any other kind of infantry. The only counter to jetpackers would be other jetpackers. Who would want to play the only antitank d00d only to get wasted by a dozen people with jetpacks?
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Old 2002-12-18, 04:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #115
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did you ever think that maybe i dont see the replies until i finish posting my reply to a single post?

why go back and have to open multiple windows to edit/copy/paste one into the original....then do it again for the second.

* upon examination i didnt need to hit reply to answer LED...so my bad *

but the other one i didnt see til after i posted
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Old 2002-12-18, 04:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #116
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I agree, JPs would only ruin what the DEVs have created in this MMOFPS.
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Old 2002-12-18, 05:00 PM   [Ignore Me] #117
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Well I disagree but that's the nature of this place we call the interweb.
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Old 2002-12-18, 05:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #118
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Originally posted by Led
Skilled jetpack infantry would have much higher mobility than any regular infantry, yes? Even if it was only a quick burst for a second or two, people would of course find ways to fight that would yield maximum advantage from it
GASP!! you mean get good at the game and use the items affectively? you dont say! *now for serious response*

isnt that the point of the game. to use your items to the fullest capability?


The way I see it, jetpack infantry would own any other kind of infantry. The only counter to jetpackers would be other jetpackers.
i was under the impression there is all sorts of anti air weaponry

Who would want to play the only antitank d00d only to get wasted by a dozen people with jetpacks?
so limit the amount available. it can be a specialist equipment.


and as ive said before...they could sacrifice armor for their mobility...and that being said...maybe to limit their weight...they could only carry one or 2 weapons...and they couldnt be heavy weapons like a rocket launcher or so.

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some of you are reading way too deep into this. its not meant to be some Uber pack that will render the game completely unbalanced. with its introduction, their would be limits on its uses, and their would be equal balances to defend against them.
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Old 2002-12-18, 05:11 PM   [Ignore Me] #119
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Antiair weapons, yes, but the idea was to only have the jetpack for quick bursts, right? Antiair weapons would not really come into play if they never reached a decent altitude.

Uber or not, jetpack troops would have an advantage over all regular infantry. It comes again to 'why would anyone want to play anything but a jetpacker?' Of course, you could say the same thing about vehicles, but that has the balance of vehicles being unable to go inside buildings, and regular infantry does have its uses.

Limiting the amount of jetpacks would not be a good idea if they implement them. Then we would get llamas grabbing them and going afk for a few hours, just to tick people off. Or even worse yet, people TKing each other to get the chance to spawn one.
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Old 2002-12-18, 05:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #120
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Originally posted by Led
Antiair weapons, yes, but the idea was to only have the jetpack for quick bursts, right? Antiair weapons would not really come into play if they never reached a decent altitude.
so use your automatic rifles and snipers and shotguns....decreased armor...easier to kill....just spray and lead and you have dead jpers

Uber or not, jetpack troops would have an advantage over all regular infantry. It comes again to 'why would anyone want to play anything but a jetpacker?' Of course, you could say the same thing about vehicles, but that has the balance of vehicles being unable to go inside buildings, and regular infantry does have its uses.
you half answered your own question. there is a balance. vehicles cant go indoors. etc.

jpers wont have very good armor and will be easier to kill. they also wouldnt be able to carry the same amount of weapons/ammo or heavier weapons b/c they cant weigh a ton if they want to fly

Limiting the amount of jetpacks would not be a good idea if they implement them. Then we would get llamas grabbing them and going afk for a few hours, just to tick people off. Or even worse yet, people TKing each other to get the chance to spawn one.
you make it sound like this wont happen with vehicles...which im positive that if it happens with the JPs, it will with vehicles.

and once again...not everyone will want a JP. its not gonna be an uber pack....and there will be downsides (aforementioned) to being a JPer that would put people off to being them. only the people serious about it will want to be it.

its just like vehicles. everyone loves to shoot guns. but who just wants to drive around and not get to shoot??? theres a special breed out there that love to pilot and will do so. just like there would be that special crew out there that would give up their weapons to be able to perform the special role of Jper
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