Circumcision - Page 3

Red Beard · 2012-04-14, 11:04 PM

Can you give an example of flawed methodology you've come across in reading African STD studies?

ArcIyte · 2012-04-14, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Red Beard

Can you give an example of flawed methodology you've come across in reading African STD studies?

Originally Posted by Red Beard

African STD studies

Originally Posted by Red Beard

African

also: http://tinyurl.com/7deqtap

Vecha · 2012-04-14, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by ArcIyte

Are you fucking serious? Please provide proof, and don't link me to those bullshit "studies" based in AFRICA.

They are so methodologically flawed, it's absurd to even mention them. Different populations, different ethnicity, different customs and sexual habits just for starters.

Also, why does uncircumcised Europe have lower HIV and STD rates than the (generally) circumcised USA?

I'd guess better sex education...but I'm pulling that out of my ass.

Red Beard · 2012-04-14, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by ArcIyte

also: http://tinyurl.com/7deqtap

...?

I was just going for a simple example, but thanks for the link none the less.

Warborn · 2012-04-15, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by Red Beard

Who said they were? Or were you originally implying that nothing is permissible unless government says so...?

So why did you bother bringing it up?

I defined terms to illustrate that what they do to women isn't circumcision by definition.

Yes, lets mince words and argue about semantics instead.

Yeah...the government is not my moral compass

These aren't government organizations. They're national associations of pediatricians who busy themselves with figuring out what's best for children. But good work not addressing the issue again. I'm beginning to wonder why you're even writing these things, as you apparently have nothing at all to say.

Warborn · 2012-04-15, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by ArcIyte

Are you fucking serious? Please provide proof, and don't link me to those bullshit "studies" based in AFRICA.

Here are two studies based in AMERICA so I don't know how reliable they are but here you go anyway:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21590467
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21972310

Red Beard · 2012-04-15, 01:35 AM

So why did you bother bringing it up?

I expressly stated why in the thread.

Yes, lets mince words and argue about semantics instead.

The alternative being to accept a label applied using faulty logic in an attempt to gain a moral or social equivalence...Do you believe they plan for families at family planning clinics? That's what they're called after all!

They're national associations of pediatricians who busy themselves with figuring out what's best for children.

Well, call me crazy, but I'm willing to guess that they're all registered with/regulated by the state.

They're national associations of pediatricians who busy themselves with figuring out what's best for children.

...This sounds like something Bill O'Reilly would say.

And since the context was talking about who to defer to in determining a moral compass...makes even less sense. (OH! They're BUSY you say!) But we obviously aren't going to agree on anything to do with morality, so yeah...

Vancha · 2012-04-15, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by Elude

Let me put it this way lol... How many dick drawings have you seen that were not circumcised? Surely this must indicate a circumcised penis being more attractive right?

I'll be honest, I don't look at dick drawings all that often...or ever.

Just to clarify, are these drawings you look at of members "at attention", or just hanging out?

BuzzCutPsycho · 2012-04-15, 09:08 AM

Seeing as how I am not a *** I am quite happy to have my foreskin.

Elude · 2012-04-15, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by Vancha

I'll be honest, I don't look at dick drawings all that often...or ever.

Just to clarify, are these drawings you look at of members "at attention", or just hanging out?

Hahah what have I got myself into!

How have you not seen a dick drawing at least once? They're all over the internet in the gaming community, literally everywhere. You're making me feel WEIRD!

I'm definitely not religious in the slightest but I do find circumcision to look neater regardless of it's actual physical traits.

Warborn · 2012-04-15, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Red Beard

words

I'll take all that nonsense to assume you're happy to have a double-standard about the issue and can't provide any compelling argument about why that might be.

BuzzCutPsycho · 2012-04-15, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Elude

Hahah what have I got myself into!

How have you not seen a dick drawing at least once? They're all over the internet in the gaming community, literally everywhere. You're making me feel WEIRD!

I'm definitely not religious in the slightest but I do find circumcision to look neater regardless of it's actual physical traits.

It looks the same when you're erect. I figured an admirer of human penises such as yourself would know that.

Elude · 2012-04-15, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by BuzzCutPsycho

It looks the same when you're erect. I figured an admirer of human penises such as yourself would know that.

I'm only making this look worse for me I'm going to stop posting lol.

Natir · 2012-04-15, 11:18 AM

Some of those studies are kind of dumb.... They don't really report where the infection came from, only whether it was contracted or not... Without knowing exactly how each participant contracted HIV, I would not find any of these studies credible. Being biased in a study, who knew!

Vancha · 2012-04-15, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Elude

I'm only making this look worse for me I'm going to stop posting lol.

Yeah, what Buzz said. The stereotypical penis shape resembles either/or. The uncircumcised "hood" is retractable...It's pretty nifty actually. >_>