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Old 2002-11-20, 12:39 AM   [Ignore Me] #16
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I've read your post and your argument. It's the same whiny one we've heard for two fucking years! The simple fact is people are lazy. Yes they don't check the FAQ. They never have. They never will. All bitching and flaming does is create a cesspool of a community that no one wants to be a part of. If you take the easy route and buy into that negativity then they win. They win because you let them.

So you have to ask yourself. Are you part of the problem, or part of the solution? There is no in-between.

So yes.. people that would spend thier efforts writing rants about noobies and flaming them rather than spending half the time involved posting a simple answer are assholes in my books. I feel I have that right to call you an asshole because I am one of the people who have chosen to spend thier time helping instead of hurting the community.

If all you want to do is flame noobs then go hang out in CS chatrooms and forums. I would hope that the PlanetSide community (including PSU) is more interested in building something better.


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Old 2002-11-20, 02:24 AM   [Ignore Me] #17
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I was going to write a big long reply but i'm not going to waste my breath because (first of i'm not even sure it's my battle, but your pissing me off enough that i'm going to side with the underdog and commit social suicide) i know you'll just go "I''m a condesending jackass who's been around longer then you, and your a stupid little kid, therefor i default to right." The most annoying thing in the world is your god damned condescending attitudes, you people play the high and mighty well enough that you should become teachers. I refuse to post on the official boards because of the absolutely shitty software on station, but i would assume that the question might, maybe, possibly be answered when he saw it. Now i dont agree with posting "People at official forums don't know s**t!!!!" i would have to quote afex (unfortanantly) "It's called being brutally honest." Feel free to flame my grammer or whatever else helps inflate your ego.
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Old 2002-11-20, 03:11 AM   [Ignore Me] #18
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Originally posted by Nohimn
Read this before calling me an asshole, because all I am saying is that it's hard to cope with people who are not well informed and are stealing beta spots.
Why would someone who has been following the game a bit longer, necessarily make a better beta tester?

A good portion of the people who have been following the game "forever," just want to get their hands on the game a bit early and might make poor beta testers.

Alot of them will be more concerned with making the role thay want to play (such as sniper, or pilot) uber, insead of searching for tru balance.

I am sure that, at some point, I will ask a question that has already been answered. I would rather an answer than a flame, wouldn't you?

In short, be kind to a noob (like me), someday soon they might be a member of your squad.
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Old 2002-11-20, 06:49 AM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Originally posted by Incompetent
The most annoying thing in the world is your god damned condescending attitudes, you people play the high and mighty well enough that you should become teachers.
Wow, hypocrisy reaches astonishingly high levels never before seen on the likes of PSU!

Your name truly describes every aspect of your existence.
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Old 2002-11-20, 08:51 AM   [Ignore Me] #20
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I will not hesitate to lock this thread, It started as a simple discussion of how newb like the official forums are, then the people who love the official forums oh so much come in and turn it sour. Would I rather there be no official forums? Yes, I would rather it be that way, leave the community to the fansites. Would it mean more newbs here? Probably, but that is why I created this site, to inform people about the game and what it has to offer. I think the official forums have too much moderation, and you have to dig far to much to find the real answers. They are just un-needed at this point IMO, any new info that is released will probably go in the form of an interview, or preview. Not through the official forum.

Bottom line is if you are an old school community member who whored those forums 6 months ago while they were open, you are going to like them.

If you like a more laid back atmosphere, or are somewhat new to the community your going to go to one of the fansites and have them bring you the worthy posts. Its all a matter of preference.. I simply dont have the time to browse those forums all day, and given the amount of peopel visiting them and posting questions, by the time i respond to one thing there will be another. And most are indeed, pointless posts. That are either covered in the official FAQ, or on the fansites.

I like it here :]
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Old 2002-11-20, 09:17 AM   [Ignore Me] #21
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Originally posted by Hamma
I like it here :]
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Old 2002-11-20, 10:35 AM   [Ignore Me] #22
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It started as a simple discussion of how newb like the official forums are, then the people who love the official forums oh so much come in and turn it sour.
If you really believe that, Hamma, I'm truly disappointed in you :o

If you like a more laid back atmosphere, or are somewhat new to the community your going to go to one of the fansites and have them bring you the worthy posts.
gg propaganda. This is such a flawed statement, I won't even take the time to show you how false it is out of courtesy, since I do respect you. I'll let this slide as some momentary lapse of judgement, because I really don't think you are so foolish
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Old 2002-11-20, 11:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #23
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I like it here, its safe and warm, but there is les flame then in the offical forums, thats what happens when you give fools Napalm.

and Lexington_Steele is a newbie? i always thoguht you were like a Gurou of planetside or something, not a High gurou like the Grand command over at PSI, but you seem to know alot and make good arguments towards what you believe, unlike some people here who just say things like "The Vanu are going to win because they R0x0r and your team is suX0r n00bz!", withour giveing any reason or siting any sorces to back up their statements, people like me that is (the Vanu are going to win by hte way). I would like most of the 12 year olds who found crack and porn at too young an age to stay at the offical forums, but some who have a sliver of maturity, should come here and not have to be trapped in the flaming hell of the OF. Also no one reads the FAQ...i still havent, looked at the Vehicles and weapons a bit though....pictures....perrty pictures.
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Old 2002-11-20, 12:14 PM   [Ignore Me] #24
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Like I said, the people who like the official forums will disagree with me. So we can agree to disagree because that is not a flawed statement btw I am not referring to JUST PSU :|
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Old 2002-11-20, 12:35 PM   [Ignore Me] #25
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Originally posted by Tobias
I like it here, its safe and warm, but there is les flame then in the offical forums, thats what happens when you give fools Napalm.

What are you trying to say, man!?


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Old 2002-11-20, 12:36 PM   [Ignore Me] #26
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The point that Mike was trying to make was that they're going to stay perpetually newbs if everyone just sits around criticizing them instead of answering their questions and addressing their issues. Everyone here probably asked a stupid question or two when they joined the community, and most (hopefully) have moved beyond that stage. It's one thing to poke fun at nubbishness, but to be genuinely condescending and mean to people who have honest questions is just pathetic.

And Hamma, people posting to defend the official forums did not sour this thread. This thread started off sour, because some jackasses with hardly two neurons to rub together decided to pump up their egos by noob bashing.
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Old 2002-11-20, 12:50 PM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Oh, but I guess agreeing with AC's rational explanation means I'm still turning things sour and I'm biased. I still can't comprehend how you can possibly call this place more "laid back" and HONESTLY say it has better discussion :P The official forums have been open what.. a week? Give it some time to cool down (may take longer considering beta is upon us) before you go making unfair blanket judgements. We've had more good discussion in general chat alone on that forum than I'd expect to see in this place after 5 years

But I guess since you're too opinionated to admit that the official forums have a use and serve a purpose you'll never see that ;(

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Old 2002-11-20, 12:59 PM   [Ignore Me] #28
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I want people tro stay newbies so i can kill them and get BEP's easy!

We talk about the important things here, like strip clubs
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Old 2002-11-20, 03:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #29
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People that know me also know that I have never had much toleration for this kind of noobie bashing. Not on the old official forums, not on PSI, not here or anywhere. It hurts the community and I will always speak out about it.

If it makes you feel better to disregard my opinion because of the length of time I've been around, then so be it. I make no appologies. I am what I am. Ultimately if you don't like what I have to say you can do what I suggest you folks do when it comes to the official forums you detest so much..

Don't read them. No one is forcing you.


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Old 2002-11-20, 03:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #30
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Well this is all a matter of opinion. I have the utmost respect for both of you, but the fact of the matter is we just arent going to agree on some things. So rather than getting all worked up about it, I am not going to continue.
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