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Old 2012-03-09, 12:34 AM   [Ignore Me] #61
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Originally Posted by SKYeXile View Post
Its free to play, not to free to socialise.
Oh dear...
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Old 2012-03-09, 01:10 AM   [Ignore Me] #62
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Oh dear...
Freeplay user says what?

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Old 2012-03-09, 01:13 AM   [Ignore Me] #63
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Freeplay user says what?
We shouldn't look down on the free users.
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Click here to go to the next VIP post in this thread.   Old 2012-03-09, 01:17 AM   [Ignore Me] #64
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PS1 had a free play system too. We called it Fodderside.
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Old 2012-03-09, 01:24 AM   [Ignore Me] #65
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We shouldn't look down on the free users.
They're ants, all of them.
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Old 2012-03-09, 01:25 AM   [Ignore Me] #66
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I don't get it. Since when did Free players become second class citizens in the gaming world?

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Old 2012-03-09, 01:48 AM   [Ignore Me] #67
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I think its a good idea to have a basic outfit of 30 people and basic features for free. If you want to go premium outfit its a 1 time payment of $15 which gives you limitless number of member and a customizable logo and any other perks the outfit gets.

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Old 2012-03-09, 02:25 AM   [Ignore Me] #68
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Actually, considering how important the players are to a game that relies on having lots of them, putting roadblocks in the way of community creation might even be unhealthy for the game. Making people pay for outfit creation will cause outfits that would otherwise have been created, not be created. Think about how many people who would have stuck around because they found an outfit they liked might end up leaving because those outfits never got created.

I don't know how many of the established outfits started out as a casual experiment that happened to take off, but I'd imagine it's a fair few.
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This is the last VIP post in this thread.   Old 2012-03-09, 09:27 AM   [Ignore Me] #69
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Re: Station Fee for Outfit Creation


There have been no decisions about this announced (and Higby can certainly swoop in and clear it up) but what is common in most Free to Play games is Outfits/Clans/Guild creation typically is limited to players who are subscribing. Joining an Outfit is of course an entirely different story and we hope to make that as fun and easy as possible.
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Old 2012-03-09, 09:51 AM   [Ignore Me] #70
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I'll second what Mouser said. F2P with microtransactions is fine, but please give me a subscription option that covers it all.
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Old 2012-03-09, 10:25 AM   [Ignore Me] #71
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Let's also make it 5 words per every 10 minutes. But first you have to buy the chat box for $8.99.
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Old 2012-03-09, 10:30 AM   [Ignore Me] #72
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Outfit creation privilege as part of an over all "subscriber pkg" is totally different (and much better) then just having a charge for creating an outfit
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Old 2012-03-09, 05:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #73
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I think DDO is my personal favorite implementation of a F2P game. They required a station cash equivalent currency to purchase a guild charter. However the aspect that really made this work was that you were rewarded with the station cash equivalent currency through standard play. So anyone could make a guild but you either needed to pay a little or play a little.
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Old 2012-06-25, 10:07 AM   [Ignore Me] #74
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I would be very surprised if outfit creation was not linked to a subscription & further more think it should be.
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Old 2012-06-25, 10:10 AM   [Ignore Me] #75
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SOE charges for creating guilds in their other free games, I don't see why they would or should not include outfits in that.
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