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Old 2004-04-07, 02:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Hi everyone i'm new to the forums here but ive been reading the tech forums at my school for a long time now snice its unblocked. I own and i'm on a mac and thus the name: Disconnections I really want a new computer to play the following games: Planetside, Command and Conquer Generals, Doom 3, and hopefully any other cool game coming out soon or sometime this year.

At first I was planning to buy the parts to build a computer from newegg.com and build it myself. But but my parnets told me they would pay for the difference if I bought a pre-built system. So after reading the recommadtions from older threads I looked at Falcon-Northwest and Alienware

I compared the intel to the AMD and I found that the exterme edition 3.4ghz p4 is what im looking for so I bought an alienware...... that was as big of a mistake as owning a mac. Does anyone know were I could get a pre-built computer with a p4 3.2 ghz or 3.4 ghz exterme edition p4 other then alienware?
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Old 2004-04-07, 02:09 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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I forgot to metion in case your wondering I did not get my aleinware comp yet..... I really want to cancel my order to them but at this point I might as well get a prebuilt if my parnets are welling to pay the differnce to do that instead of buying it from newegg.com which would cost a little over 2,330.50 $$
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Old 2004-04-07, 02:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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honestly I would appreciate all of your input on why you think intel's suck it was not my intension to flame or put you down I just wanted you to explain yourself even tho it has nothing to do with the thread. no offense man just dont say intel sucks and leave it at that
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Old 2004-04-07, 03:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Ok, i am unclear as to what you want us to do, forget those happended
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Old 2004-04-07, 03:36 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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Hey Rbstr can you help me out? I was wondering if there is any other companys that build computers with the intel p4 exterme edition 3.2ghz or 3.4ghz? any company other then alienware.
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Old 2004-04-07, 03:42 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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thse guys have em http://www.falcon-nw.com/
i think dell deos but I woudl never recomend a dell
the 3.4gh EE's are new so not many are around yet. Personaly if your gooing for EE price i woudl get an Athlon 64 FX-53. intel is goign though a socket change very soon too, if you want to wait a bit
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Old 2004-04-07, 03:54 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Thanks for all the help i'll give falcon nw a call to see how fast I might be able to get one. I didnt want to build my own computer unless I had to. My cousin got an area 51 laptop as a graduation present but he never got it untill 6 months later I didnt know this until after I already ordered my computer and they're doing the same thing to me: delaying the order 3 weeks every week. Even tho they prosimed "9 days" for it to be built and shipped out so i'm getting desperate for someone else who I can rely on to live up to their promisses.
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Old 2004-04-07, 03:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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As for the socket change? what do you mean?
I know asus is changing things around for new ram hopely by this summer. Does intel or AMD have plans to make changes to?
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Old 2004-04-07, 04:26 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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it means you won't be able to upgrade your CPU unless you buy a new motherboard.
I strongly suggest buying from newegg, because I don't trust anything I don't build myself. only thing you get from buying pre built is tech support. you can save that 1k and use it if you ever need to by calling a tech guy for like 100$
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Old 2004-04-07, 07:36 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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I've looked at a lot of different computer companies, and the one I eventually decided on was ABS. I ordered a computer from them that had the same stuff in it as a highend system from Alienware or Falcon for over $700 less. I priced it on all three sites.

No, ABS will not save you as much as building it yourself. But if you don't know how to build a computer yourself or think you will screw something up, this is the best way to go.

ABS has Extreme Editions as well, but I would go with the FX-53 if money is no object. The socket change is coming soon for Intel proccessors, and with the current mobos out, the FX-53 tops the EE in almost every game.

Personally, if you're paying for this yourself, I don't think either one is worth it. You can get a P4 3.4C (or E) or an Athlon 64 3400+ for about a third of the cost of the FX-53 or 3.4EE. You will get performance that is not too far off the mark of these high-end proccessors as well.

So if I were you, I'd do yourself a favor and save some money by ordering your system from ABS and putting an Athlon 64 3400+ or a P4 3.4C (or E) in it. Add a 9800pro (or XT, if you wanna spend the extra money) and a gig of RAM, and you've got a computer that will shread just about any game out there at a constant 60fps.

But it's up to you. If money is no object and you've got a ton to blow with nothing better to spend it on, and you want the absolute fastest rig you can buy, go ahead and order the P4EE or FX-53 system from Falcon. But IMO, it isn't worth the hundreds, or maybe even a thousand or more extra you will pay.

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Old 2004-04-07, 09:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Old 2004-04-07, 09:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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www.ibuypower.com is good too. not the fanciest but, very competitive prices. ABS is a good company. a old renengade buddy of mine got his from there and he loved it when it was fast. (that was like 4 years ago so )
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Old 2004-04-07, 10:04 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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think dell deos but I woudl never recomend a dell
the 3.4gh EE's are new so not many are around yet. Personaly if your gooing for EE price i woudl get an Athlon 64 FX-53. intel is goign though a socket change very soon too, if you want to wait a bit
I thought AMD was changing to socket 939 shortly too. If I were you, I'd wait until motherboards with PCI Express cards start shipping, because if you get a PC now, you're going to need a new motherboard in 10 - 18 months when you will be looking for a new videocard again. This time of year is not the best time to be buying a high end system. Lots of companies role out new stuff in the early summer to early fall. I would definately wait a while if I were you.

If you absolutely can't wait for the new stuff to come out. I would recommend an Athlon64 over a P4 anything. MS's new OS will be 64 bit, and a lot of major game developers are developing their next generation engines for 64 bit processors. When that happens, your 64 bit AMD will smoke a P4 extreme edition.

In addition to Falcon NW you might want to check out Polywell.com too. They aren't as popular as Falcon but they're definately just as good.
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Old 2004-04-07, 10:07 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Do any prebuilts put in enough cooling for the 3.4 prescotts?

i thought AMD was still continuing there old sockets though. It should just be there highest processor line or two(i think there were 2 plus a workstation proccessor.) that will have the 939.

Edit: I know its huge. im on 1920x1440, i dont notice it as much. I have to change it to my new comp stats too.

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Old 2004-04-07, 10:10 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Originally Posted by Ait'al
Do any prebuilts put in enough cooling for the 3.4 prescotts?
Yes. And your sig is obnoxiously huge.
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