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Old 2012-01-31, 01:57 AM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Re: IMO KillCam killing the Game


I don't think Kill Cams are a problem if they do it like CoD. I like seeing how I died from the enemy perspective. And if the TTK is like PS1's, its not like you'd ever get killed without knowing where the shot came from (unless you got OHK sniped).
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Old 2012-01-31, 02:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #17
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dont like it, i dont want people to be seeing my Australian wall hacks.
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Old 2012-01-31, 02:16 AM   [Ignore Me] #18
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Kill cams are only valid if:

A) They show a replay of the enemy players view as the kill took place.
B) They can be skipped.

The idea of showing the enemy players current location for a few seconds, aka the battlefield killcam, is stunningly lame.

Full disclosure, I <3 BF3.
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Old 2012-01-31, 02:30 AM   [Ignore Me] #19
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If its going to be a feature in-game, then let it be an option such that you can only see the kill cam if you let others see you when you kill them. If you disable kill cam you cannot see kill cam when someone kills you (instead you see the map) and they cannot see you when you kill them.
I think that should cater to old school PS player and the new ppl.
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Old 2012-01-31, 02:53 AM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Killing the game is exagerated.


That said, I don't have a need to see the enemy's positioning. But then I'm thinking of would I want to be seen after I made a kill? It depends on the situation and your options to move and relocate, but depending on the amount of cover present, you don't want to give people your assault plan and position as a cloaker and I can imagine the same goes for snipers.

Having people figure out where the hell I was and what I was doing is a fun element of the game. On top of that, I'm going to encounter the same people for years. I don't want them to know my moves from the first encounter onward. Let them learn and adapt.

Hit indicators containing directional information is enough for me.

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Old 2012-01-31, 03:16 AM   [Ignore Me] #21
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DO NOT WANT!

Killcams provide free intel and break immersion
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Old 2012-01-31, 03:39 AM   [Ignore Me] #22
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Kill the kill-cam

Not a fan of them myself
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Old 2012-01-31, 03:41 AM   [Ignore Me] #23
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Originally Posted by Canaris View Post
Kill the kill-cam

Not a fan of them myself
we can get a replay of that though yea?
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Old 2012-01-31, 03:53 AM   [Ignore Me] #24
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Rather not, but wont lose my sleep even if it makes it in.
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Old 2012-01-31, 04:35 AM   [Ignore Me] #25
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I'm against kill cams because they are another thing chipping away at immersion, but as an aspect of gameplay I don't think it's that very damaging. Kill cams in cod means that you know where 1 of 16 people are going to be. Kill cam in ps2 means you know where 1 of 1000 people are going to be. And that's uncertain at best.
And thats my view also and if it is such an uncertain way of identifying people's locations then why have it in at all? Okay problem solved, chuck it in the bin with the BFR's!
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Old 2012-01-31, 04:58 AM   [Ignore Me] #26
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i do not like it either.
in bfbc2 nobody likes it.

on the other side this is not bf or cod if you are really good you may not be spotted by killcam.(your victim might only see part of the background behind you,that could be everywhere)
Also this is not bf, killcam may be a problem if you are lonesniping on a hill or camping as infil but who cares if you are spotted as infantry or vehicle...most of the time you are with more other people that can engage any sucker targeting you and healing you.
And most of the time in PS1 it was hard to sneak as a platoon,you can't hide 50-100 pissed soldiers moving along with vehicles, escort and supports.
in the end the crowd is your shield.

but we'll see ingame...
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Old 2012-01-31, 05:10 AM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Originally Posted by Gortha View Post
Imagine you are somewhere behind the front hacking a tower or sabotating something.
You meet a enemy and manage to kill him from behind. You are in a hurry, so you directly run where u need to go. Your victim sees on the kill cam where you are running to and where you were hiding. He spawns and directly knows where you are going to and follows.
You assume the kill cam shows you what happens after you die. It may just show a replay of the last 5 seconds of your life from your killers first person perspective.

But assuming I'm in that situation..

-I know he knows my location when I killed him.
-I can assume he has some good ideas about my probable target. If its some tower, he would know that I was heading for the console.
-I can assume he will be coming after me to prevent that/get revenge.

Originally Posted by Atheosim View Post
I'm against kill cams because they are another thing chipping away at immersion, but as an aspect of gameplay I don't think it's that very damaging. Kill cams in cod means that you know where 1 of 16 people are going to be. Kill cam in ps2 means you know where 1 of 1000 people are going to be. And that's uncertain at best.
A toggle would serve you then.

Originally Posted by HitbackTR View Post
And thats my view also and if it is such an uncertain way of identifying people's locations then why have it in at all?
Because its a popular feature among modern FPSs.



There is more than one way to do kill cams. Some point your camera towards the enemy that killed you. I believe BF2 did this. TF2 does it as well. Others show you in the process of dying. Still others show the point of view of the enemy killing you. Still others just show the enemy after having killed you.
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Old 2012-01-31, 05:11 AM   [Ignore Me] #28
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I guess the biggest issue could be solved by disabling killcam if killer has cloak enqbled. Should cover infils and snipers.
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Old 2012-01-31, 05:33 AM   [Ignore Me] #29
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My thoughts echo that of many ppl who've already posted. We don't know the specifics of its implementation. But I most likely won't like it - I just don't know yet to what extent...

Generally-speaking I'm not a fan of giving ppl free intel like that without having to put some efforts towards achieving it. IMO the location of enemies shouldn't just be handed to you.

If you want to know the location of the person who killed you and you didn't see or pay attention to the hit location indicators when you were getting shot, the sound of the enemy's weapon getting fired, or the tracers whizzing by you, then you should have to go back to the general area where you got killed and look for the guy.

This especially important for anybody who works away from the meat grinder. Whether you're sniping on the edges of the zerg, backhacking and otherwise causing disruption behind enemy lines, or cleaning up your own back yard, you will often run into situations where there are only a handful of players around, and knowing the location of your killer could make the difference in a mission's success or failure. Even in PS2 where the number of players will presumably be in the thousands.

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Old 2012-01-31, 05:57 AM   [Ignore Me] #30
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No only as I dont want to see myself get killed again this is not CoD or Bf3 its Planetside Killcam free please!
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