The Big HA Arguement!

[Aurorapro]

What are people's feelings on HA? I believe that all can simply own when used properly and the thing i hate is when some MA attacker indoors expects to get the better of you with any of the HA weapons, the truth is indoors HA simply owns the lot but outside unless you get to sring out on someone then you will really have to be very lucky or charge straight ahead and let rip, well thats what i believe anyway im beginning to use HA so much more now and the maelstrom simply kicks major ass indoors against a surge in total ive seen 7 people go down to its secondary fire, if people want to own indoors get HA and get good at using it ive seen so many people own MA'ers aswell like my friend "Cacus" on werner goes everywhere with his MCG and owns people even outside at first wh i tried its was death for me lol. I do not believe any of the HA weapons should be buffed or changed as i have owned and go owned by JH and lasher users aswell, just simply a matter of sometimes luck and sometimes skill.

Sorry for Threading spammage btw :P

[Veteran]

HA balance is meaningless. Surge breaks the game.

[JakeLogan]

Originally Posted by Veteran

HA balance is meaningless. Surge breaks the game.

/agreed btw delete HA solves all my problems..........

[Kikinchikin]

no. just becuz everyone in the world has HA practically, doesnt mean its unfair. if you want to be a grunt u pretty much have to use it. (altho u can get by with MA or SA sometimes if ur good)

[Veteran]

I don't agree. By that logic, the U.S. military would equip every soldier with the SAW (Squad Automatic Weapon). The reason they don't is because there are drawbacks to doing so.

There should be drawbacks to wielding Heavy Assault.

edit: Base captures are made and broken indoors. Claiming that HA sucks outdoors is futile, considering a soldier has more than enough certs to also be able to drive a tank when he's not owning with HA indoors.

[Jagd]

So what, for 4 lousy certs you'd better be able to own somewhere! That's coming from someone who doesn't use HA, before you get your panties in a twist.

There are those who like HA, and there are those of us who have enough skill to get by on Medium and/or Special Assault. I say stop griping that some people like the edge HA gives them, and just be happy that we get the ultimate weapon combo (Spec Assault, basically) and are fully equipped for grunt work with only 5 cert points under the belt.

[I Hate Pants]

Originally Posted by Veteran

There should be drawbacks to wielding Heavy Assault.

EXACTLY! I mean MCG'S practically make the cycler obsolete. I'm a hardcore cycler user. I don't want to be like every other TR and use the MCG. Grunts should be armed the the basic rifle.

But you have to admit. Anyone who arms themselves with 2 HA weapons is the ultiamte N00B!

Most players use HA weapons because its easier to kill players with. They'd rather not have a challenge. Its more rewarding killing people with an MA rifle than it is with a HA weapon.

[Majik]

Originally Posted by I Hate Pants

But you have to admit. Anyone who arms themselves with 2 HA weapons is the ultiamte N00B!

I admit I am guilty of doing that when I first started playing and tried the TR. Running around with 2 MCGs, one reg ammo, one AP. Thankfully I saw the MA light

[Jagd]

When your main is BR14, you shouldn't be tossing words like "n00b" around. Thanks.

[Majik]

Originally Posted by Jagd

When your main is BR14, you shouldn't be tossing words like "n00b" around. Thanks.

I don't see how that applies. I have seen people play this game for less than a month and get BR 20, and others play it for 6 months just having fun doing support roles and not XP whoring and still be no higher than a BR 14. Noob is a state of mind (or lack there of), not a battlerank.

[SilverLord]

So basically I use the noob because it's an easy kill? I can drop HA so fast and only use SA to get kills. SA is much better than HA in my opinion. I use the MCG because it is the funnest, and most difficult HA weapon in the game.

[Kikinchikin]

what silverlord said. MCG is just fun to use. who wouldn't want to use a huge chaingun that spews out lead like crazy?

I for one have done it all. During beta i was a hardcore only sniper. First few months of release i was a rocklet/thumper whore. Then i started using cycler and finally the MCG and striker combo (myt favorite all time ownage combo) then i got agile insteaad of rexo for need of support certs, and here i am with my MCG, 2 decis, REK, CUD and med app plus ammo.

[BadAsh]

The real n00bs use MAX units. IMHO the MAX is the single biggest skill substitute built into this game... next would be aircraft (who can't kill with the Reaver?)... and then Tanks. Somewhere after those, well after those, is HA. With a HA cert you are vulnerable to every threat in the game and actually have to fight your opponent. Other methods of killing (MAX, Aircraft, Tanks) offer the benefit of virtual immunity to many opponents (what good is your cycler now?) while allowing far easier kills...

Basically if you want to go on a killing spree and kill 5-15 opponents in a zerg cert in a Tank or Reaver... if you want to kill 1-3 opponents before dying in a zerg cert in HA.

People whining about HA are the Tank/Reaver/MAX pilots that got caught out of their vehicle. They are used to easy kills and now have to *gasp* fight for a kill. Now of course if they actually had any skills they could fight back... but...

P.S. Sorry for the hostile post, but I'm sick of people whining about HA. Ha is not the problem, it's your inability to overcome one of the smaller obsticles in the game that is the problem.

[IGOR]

I think if u are NC and have a JH surge single fire single fire triple :P will own any troop inf or big armour dude so have fun wiv the JH ppl

[SilverLord]

Surge ruins HA. And sorry for this but TR MAXes arn't up to par with NC and VS. That makes it even harder for us. The Burster is quite ok though.