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Old 2012-07-01, 03:14 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Re: Lasher, Jackhammer and MCG.


While I'll freely admit I'm one of the guys that says 'God damn, this gun is a piece of shit' when I die to a JH or MCG, it really isn't that bad. If you don't miss a shot and you engage a MCG, you'll win. Just back off a bit from JH's because if the other person has half a brain you won't win closer than 10m.

The thing that is frustrating about the Lasher is that it never shoots where you want it to. Countless times I've tried ADADADADing enemies and when I'd go right, it'd shoot to the left, then I'd go left, and it'd shoot to the right, and I wouldn't land one damn shot. I have good days though where I tear through NC and TR alike with it.

It's really hit or miss with the gun, but if you learn how to place your shots it isn't a bad gun at all.
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Old 2012-07-01, 04:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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Not only is it inaccurate, but the rounds are slow as dirt. Anyone even remotely in the way of a round from 50 feet out can dodge it.

Meanwhilst, I repeatedly got sniped by mcgs from 100 yards out.
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Old 2012-07-01, 10:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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My major gripe is it's innacuracy and hit recognition.

I have, not making shit up here, pumped 14 orbs into a guy. Saw them hit. Then died to the guy's MCG.

Against TR, if it actually records my hits, I can charge up and do some damage.

Never have much luck against NC. It's too inaccurate. NC doesn't have to do a ton of damage to you if you have the Lasher. One little pellet from their shotgun and your aim blooms outta control. After that, you're done for.

I don't know what's up with the hit recognition...sometimes it works flawlessly, other times it leaves me going, "WTF." And its not my internet connection, because I've never had a problem with the Pulsar. I <3 Pulsar.
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Old 2012-07-01, 11:52 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Originally Posted by Zulthus View Post
While I'll freely admit I'm one of the guys that says 'God damn, this gun is a piece of shit' when I die to a JH or MCG, it really isn't that bad. If you don't miss a shot and you engage a MCG, you'll win. Just back off a bit from JH's because if the other person has half a brain you won't win closer than 10m.

The thing that is frustrating about the Lasher is that it never shoots where you want it to. Countless times I've tried ADADADADing enemies and when I'd go right, it'd shoot to the left, then I'd go left, and it'd shoot to the right, and I wouldn't land one damn shot. I have good days though where I tear through NC and TR alike with it.

It's really hit or miss with the gun, but if you learn how to place your shots it isn't a bad gun at all.
Thank you for your reply, and i'm not trying to be a cock here.

But didn't you just contradict yourself pretty heavily there?

You said its frustrating that it never shoots where you want it too, and then you said learn to place your shots. :P

This is why I prefer the Sweeper. Sure its worse than a JH, but fuck me, at least its reliable. I know its range, i know what it can do and what it can't do.

Every time i pick up the Lasher i just never know if its going to hit every time, or miss every time.

I do play with a 180~ ping constantly because I'm in London, that coupled with the already suspect latency issues and hit recognition in Planetside makes some gunfights rather interesting.

Like, for example, me in a tower with an AI Max. A guy runs up the stairs towards me.. i move around the corner and start blasting him in the face, he looks at me for a second, puts away his gun, turns around and runs back down the stairs in a straight line and round the corner, while i'm constantly shooting him in the back, with hit markers everywhere. In an AI MAX. Its a Rexo i'm shooting at.

He doesn't die and just runs around the corner.


The thing i'm really looking forward to in PS2, more than anything, is having it so when i SHOOT people, they ACTUALY DIE.

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Old 2012-07-02, 01:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #20
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The thing i'm really looking forward to in PS2, more than anything, is having it so when i SHOOT people, they ACTUALY DIE.
Soooooo much this. Playing PS1 these last few days I hate when I die to someone I've put 8 JH shots into and my enhanced targeting shows me that only 2 actually registered
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Old 2012-07-02, 04:06 AM   [Ignore Me] #21
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Weapons in ps doesn't really matter, it's all bout your aim. Sometimes i can kill people with the lasher way faster than the mcg/jh, clientside oi?


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Old 2012-07-02, 04:18 AM   [Ignore Me] #22
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I compensate for my bad aim and lasher usage with P-Shield and a Quasar.

But yeah, it's not really that good even in groups any more. Scares ya and keeps you out of tunnels just fine though.
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Old 2012-07-02, 06:08 AM   [Ignore Me] #23
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Originally Posted by Pella View Post
3RD person view ownage ftw.
Heh, tryed to get creative on it... Its nothing special, but im working on another one right now where im trying to get some footage of me facerolling 1v5 etc.. It's my first vid anyways
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Old 2012-07-02, 07:17 AM   [Ignore Me] #24
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Originally Posted by infy View Post
Weapons in ps doesn't really matter, it's all bout your aim. Sometimes i can kill people with the lasher way faster than the mcg/jh, clientside oi?


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[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQNWQR8R4Q4"]Inf3rNaL #1 - YouTube[/ url]
Mmmh, not to sound a prick, and knowing I'm not that good of an aim, but really, aiming and hitting in PS1 isn't difficult. Often what makes you win in your vid is more your movement (which must make you warp a lot on ennemy screen) than your aim.
After coming back to PS, I'm rather shocked how I find it easy to hit compared to my memory after having played other FPS for some years.

As for topic, the very concept of Lasher, from the beginning, a weapon which is technically going to miss, and which is given a stupid mecanism to make up for missing, is going to be a fail.
I much prefer current lasher where actually hitting is much more controllable than before, when orb was slow and CoF wild after 4 shots
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Old 2012-07-02, 07:30 AM   [Ignore Me] #25
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Mmmh, not to sound a prick, and knowing I'm not that good of an aim, but really, aiming and hitting in PS1 isn't difficult. Often what makes you win in your vid is more your movement (which must make you warp a lot on ennemy screen) than your aim.
After coming back to PS, I'm rather shocked how I find it easy to hit compared to my memory after having played other FPS for some years.

As for topic, the very concept of Lasher, from the beginning, a weapon which is technically going to miss, and which is given a stupid mecanism to make up for missing, is going to be a fail.
I much prefer current lasher where actually hitting is much more controllable than before, when orb was slow and CoF wild after 4 shots
I'm sure we are all well aware of that

And im getting tired of hearing this "warp" blah blah bs rofl, everyone warps just cert an aim
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Old 2012-07-02, 07:39 AM   [Ignore Me] #26
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I would love this stupid debate to be settled with PS1 stats released on which HAs since patch have been scavenged the most. From my experience I have often seen NC and TR bodies looted, while VS corpses are ignored, the Lasher is not prized.
well as Redshift pointed out one of the main reasons it's not taken is due to the fact NC & TR can't freely get ammo for it.

Honestly I've seen people handle the lasher like a pro, you need skill to wield it, how long since you all last played Planetside btw? if you've only just come back after years sabatical what are you expecting, just to pick up a gun and be god like? pffff
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Old 2012-07-02, 10:58 AM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Originally Posted by infy View Post
I'm sure we are all well aware of that

And im getting tired of hearing this "warp" blah blah bs rofl, everyone warps just cert an aim
You're getting overly defensive
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Old 2012-07-02, 11:47 AM   [Ignore Me] #28
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In my mind planetsides netcode/player warping combined with lasher orbs having to be led and general inaccuracy of the weapon itself makes the lasher a piece of garbage in its current state. If you manage to direct hit land all your orbs its decent though, LOL. Its not completely useless but its the worst HA.
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Old 2012-07-02, 12:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #29
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Originally Posted by Canaris View Post
well as Redshift pointed out one of the main reasons it's not taken is due to the fact NC & TR can't freely get ammo for it.

Honestly I've seen people handle the lasher like a pro, you need skill to wield it
Not sure "skill" or lack thereof is an excuse. I've played with some of the best Lasher users in PS history and all of them still agree that over the course of PS it was still the worst HA.

I see no reason why PS2 shouldn't have more balanced HA however.
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Old 2012-07-02, 12:19 PM   [Ignore Me] #30
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fuck ha. guass/sweeper for the motherfucking win.
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