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Old 2011-07-09, 11:58 AM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Please no one button kill quick knives in Planetside 2!


It ruins every modern FPS today to the point that in close combat it's better to run round and knife everyone than it is to shoot. Knives need to work how they do in CS or even Planetside, where it is a last resort, exhausted your ammo or just for fun. I really want close quarters combat to stay with weapons and not sprinting up to everyone and hitting the I win button.
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Old 2011-07-09, 12:12 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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I only remember them saying it's a "quick knife" not a one-hit-kill quick knife. I totally agree with you though.
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Old 2011-07-09, 12:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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It'd be hard to have a 'quick' animated knife that isn't a one hit kill, given they reference Battlefield: Bad Company and CoD I imagine that's insinuation that its a one hit kill button.

In this respect I agree with Evilhomer, especially in the most recent CoD's running around with a knife is far more effective than running around with a gun and combat within around a 10 metre circle of a person just runs down to latency and how fast you can knife.

Secondly an equip able knife is better and fulfills its role better, the only reason I would use a knife ( or SHOULD use a knife) is for humiliation of opponents, stealth or desperation. I should have to pull it out rather than just have a magical teleporting knife a-la BF:BC or CoD
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Old 2011-07-09, 01:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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I agree. Nothing is more annoying in an FPS than overpowered melee weapons. Not even Snipers.
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Old 2011-07-09, 01:07 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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Yeah, my vote is for equipable knife and no one-hit-kills.

I still wouldn't cry if they add a quick knife, but I would have serious concerns with a one-hit-kill melee attack.
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Old 2011-07-09, 01:16 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Leave equippable knives in. Give us stealth kills (would have to take a bit of time, obviously.) As mentioned above, knives are really designed for last resort or stealth killing.
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Old 2011-07-09, 01:20 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Stealth kills better actually require stealth then. I have seen it screwed up in some games. Where you can do a quick strafe an be just far enough to trigger the stealth kill grab. Which is really stupid. Would have to be something like you must be behind the person an in range for 2 or 3 seconds at the minimum to perform it.
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Old 2011-07-09, 01:26 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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1 hit kill quick knifing would be ridiculously stupid IMO. Imagine an entire squad (hell, maybe even a platoon) of cloakers with one-hit kill quick knives sneaking into a base and killing off the majority of the defenders with silent, high speed, instant kills that never run out.

Total bullshit
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Old 2011-07-09, 01:33 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Originally Posted by Sifer2 View Post
Stealth kills better actually require stealth then. I have seen it screwed up in some games. Where you can do a quick strafe an be just far enough to trigger the stealth kill grab. Which is really stupid. Would have to be something like you must be behind the person an in range for 2 or 3 seconds at the minimum to perform it.
I've been playing Riddick recently on the PS3, and I agree with you. The stealth kill should take time to line up, so it's really only useful to take out guys who are guarding an area, or aren't paying attention. Definitely no strafe stealth grabs. I also believe it should take longer to off someone in armor than not in armor.
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Old 2011-07-09, 01:39 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Sorry, you have constant radar in planetside. Even if they do something as stupid as a one shot one kill knife I can't see it being that big of a deal. And they are making weapons more lethal, so if you're getting knifed often you are doing it wrong.


That said, I'm against it.

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Old 2011-07-09, 01:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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you have constant radar in planetside.
Has radar been confirmed for PS2?
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Old 2011-07-09, 01:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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I'd be fine with melee weapons being 1-hit kills from behind. Otherwise, 2-3 hits from the front, with the added option of speccing into increased melee damage.

But PLEASE DON'T ADD LUNGES!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 2011-07-09, 01:44 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Originally Posted by Bags View Post
Sorry, you have constant radar in planetside. Even if they do something as stupid as a one shot one kill knife I can't see it being that big of a deal. And they are making weapons more lethal, so if you're getting knifed often you are doing it wrong.


That said, I'm against it.
Even the worst guns in CoD kill in 2-3 shots and fire rapidly yet I regularly get tactical nukes simply by using knife + commando. In bad company 2 my knife is more effective than an assault rifle in CQC.

These are the two examples we have and its obvious that the knife IS overpowered, now we have no idea how effective rifles will be but its obviously not going to be 2-3 shot kills. you simply cant have a 1000 person battle in which people die in 2 shots so go do the math on how effective an instagib knife would be.
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Old 2011-07-09, 01:48 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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I am for one hit quick knife kills.

But no crappy lunge mechanic or specialisation!
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Old 2011-07-09, 01:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Originally Posted by WellWisherELF View Post
I'd be fine with melee weapons being 1-hit kills from behind. Otherwise, 2-3 hits from the front, with the added option of speccing into increased melee damage.

But PLEASE DON'T ADD LUNGES!!!!!!!!!!
I'm against 1-hit kills in general, but I could support this idea.
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