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Old 2012-01-01, 04:12 AM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Please view current members of this exclusive "outfit" here:
http://planetsidecheaters.wikispaces.com
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Old 2012-01-01, 04:16 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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Oops this should be in PS1 forum. Mod please move.
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Old 2012-01-01, 04:16 AM   [Ignore Me] #3
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I apparently hack, add me to the list.

Message Inspector, MOAB or popgun for confirmation.
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Old 2012-01-01, 04:23 AM   [Ignore Me] #4
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You have D2A on this list. I'll admit that D2A has improved over the years, he's not a cheater. Also razor isn't a cheater, he just has no life. He's a member of AC if that matters to you. Also, Disposabletiexue and WINDRedHawk are from China. Big ping matters alot. I see you have a TRx player on the list. I will say this about TRx, they have had a lot of skilled grunts, but the only way the succeed in the air is by tag teaming a single pilot. TRxCommando is probably nothing special.


Edit: Sub my account for a month and I'll find out for you.
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Old 2012-01-01, 04:24 AM   [Ignore Me] #5
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Originally Posted by SKYeXile View Post
I apparently hack, add me to the list.

Message Inspector, MOAB or popgun for confirmation.
I have tells from the same people + WarningDrunkPilot.
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Old 2012-01-01, 06:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Ah, name n shame innocent people who kicked your ass to get them griefed for no reason-list.

Awesome.
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Old 2012-01-01, 08:11 AM   [Ignore Me] #7
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The list could work IF every name had some sort of proof included with it.

APB has a similar third party list, but at least for every person named, they have video footage. Naturally some of the videos can be subjective whether it's cheats or not, but they have several people voting on each case whether they think it's cheating or not.
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Old 2012-01-01, 08:49 AM   [Ignore Me] #8
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It looks like some angry NC reported the whole TR and VS population.
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Old 2012-01-01, 09:05 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Ok Crator's and Coreldan's posts are quite constructive and has got me thinking. For the moment, I will get fraps going and capture videos of the confirmed cheaters in action.

The only one problem with that I guess is that it can become harder and harder to catch cheaters because it may reveal the observation and investigative techniques used to identify the cheaters.

I kinda have to get better and better catching them. May be more efficient if I code an API that GM's and game developers can use to interrogate if the game has been "injected" with tampering code (medium-term project I guess).

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Old 2012-01-01, 09:31 AM   [Ignore Me] #10
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And just to point out the slander part - you may want to not display unconfirmed names. The damage to one's reputation of just appearing on this list could ruin people's gaming experience, even if only temporarily. In the real world, this would be slander and make you liable if you can't prove the claim ...
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Old 2012-01-01, 09:42 AM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Ah, nice list.

I suggest you add everyone who ever played, currently plays or will play to the list.

We remove them if we want, or not.
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Old 2012-01-01, 09:59 AM   [Ignore Me] #12
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this is pointless,trying to make a list is a friggin waste of damn time, if you hadn't noticed PS IS DEAD!!

so why in the hell would you make a list of cheaters in a game that is so far past its prime that even most of the ppl that love that game won't even play it anymore?
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Old 2012-01-01, 10:08 AM   [Ignore Me] #13
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I don't see it as pointless. PS1 was released on May 2003. I immediately subbed on June 2003 and enjoyed it for a couple of years until the first wave of speed-hacked cheats plagued the game.

When I resubbed in Jan 2011 for 1 month, I unsubbed again within a few days when the barcode hackers was running rampant.

Now, the barcode hackers are no more which means SOE have done something.

Although the current player base is quite small, I think it is quite healthy still, at least compared to my past experiences.

Now that PS2 is around the corner, it is more important than ever to drive home the points to the developers that cheating ruins the game for many players. There are 2 ways they can go about it. Either actively manage cheating or give the player community the means to do it.

Not going to suggest that this will be an easy task but it is necessary one. Steam Valve VAC doesn't work either.

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Old 2012-01-01, 12:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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I have a few examples of this that will perhaps put things in better perspective.

Salem Witch Trials

The Red Scare

The Reign of Terror

McCarthyism


This whole list is a bad idea, and infringes on the idea of innocent until PROVEN guilty. As this list goes, its innocent until accused by those who can't ever truly know.

The devs have said "We've got this." I believe them because they can actually do something about it in PS2.

In Higby we trust.

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Old 2012-01-01, 09:56 AM   [Ignore Me] #15
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My original thinking was in fact to warn the suspected cheaters that they have been reported and are on the watchlist so that they have the opportunity to mend their ways. But I get your point that the process has to be evidence-based in order to elevate the list from being abused as a griefing channel.

Removed the unconfirmed and keeping the suspect list private.

Will need to start a new page also because wiki's have a way of keeping history very well.
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