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Old 2012-06-01, 08:26 AM   [Ignore Me] #46
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Well no, she's still a woman so she's pretty much screwed coming both ways. If she was a white man, though, it's possible s(he) would see donations pour in or have targets made of the person he was shooting at.

But no, a white woman? She's clearly hysterical. Probably not getting enough sex.
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Old 2012-06-01, 02:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #47
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Minorities are disproportionately targeted by cops and receive heftier sentences for the same crimes compared to white people. If she were white I don't doubt she still would have been charged, but her sentence would more than likely have been less.
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Old 2012-06-01, 03:47 PM   [Ignore Me] #48
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Minorities are disproportionately targeted by cops and receive heftier sentences for the same crimes compared to white people. If she were white I don't doubt she still would have been charged, but her sentence would more than likely have been less.
You mean she would have gotten a three year plea bargain? Oh, wait...
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Old 2012-06-01, 04:12 PM   [Ignore Me] #49
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You mean she would have gotten a three year plea bargain? Oh, wait...
Community service perhaps. Or a strongly written letter from the district attorney.
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Old 2012-06-01, 10:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #50
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Or she would have been charged under a different offense. Or not charged at all. Who cares what she might have been charged with. The bottom line, as I said I thought pretty plainly, is that for the same offenses minorities are on average convicted more and receive stiffer sentences for. There is no doubt that the judicial system in the US does not care for certain demographics.
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Old 2012-06-02, 02:46 AM   [Ignore Me] #51
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Do you have evidence of that?
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Old 2012-06-02, 12:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #52
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So much white guilt in here. Wow.
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Old 2012-06-02, 02:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #53
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So much white guilt in here. Wow.
It's amazing that the problem you jump to when confronted with overt racism by the police and judicial system is that white people are guilty about it.
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Old 2012-06-02, 04:25 PM   [Ignore Me] #54
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It's amazing that the problem you jump to when confronted with overt racism by the police and judicial system is that white people are guilty about it.
That isn't what he was saying.

White Man's Guilt is about feeling responsible today for descendants of victims of more ancient white men's actions. Like feeling guilty for descendants of slaves and excusing them for not being able to fend for themselves, instead blaming your own group.
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Old 2012-06-02, 04:52 PM   [Ignore Me] #55
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That isn't the context though. This racism is happening today, not a 100+ years ago.
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Old 2012-06-02, 05:07 PM   [Ignore Me] #56
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Yes it is happening today.

What I'm seeing in here mostly is people jumping to conclusions.

"It must have been a racist police system that is putting this woman in jail."

Where's your evidence of that? All I see is "White man this and holding down the black man that..."

There's no evidence of that at all. A crazy bitch shot at someone and got jailed.

I see people making sweeping conclusions based on little to no real data, just what they *think* is happening.

Like I said, status quo on this board.
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Old 2012-06-02, 05:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #57
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http://ccrjustice.org/files/CCR_Stop...Fact_Sheet.pdf

In New York 53% of those stopped by police were black people yet black people only make up 26% of the population of New York.
Justified if they find more contraband on black people right? nope, you are more likely to find a contraband on a white person.


Also a paper on the racial disparity in federal criminal charging etc.
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.c...act_id=1985377

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