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Old 2013-05-19, 01:03 AM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Lore: Skeletons in Vanu's Closet?


Recently on Redditside there was a very well written post on the Vanu Sovereignty's position and potential were they to succeed in conquering Auraxis. It essentially promised a paradise beyond what we are likely even capable of imagining: no more war, starvation, or death. No one to force you to do anything you don't want to. Just an eternity to live, learn, and enjoy the universe around you.

To say it sounded too good to be true would be an understatement. Solving every single one of mankind's problems was treated as if it was just something they could do in their sleep with nanite technology. And to them, it was an inevitability. No where was there even a hint that things might not be as they seemed. For a faction that espouses the virtues of the scientific method and logical thought nowhere did they even factor in the idea that there might be some sort of price associated with all of that potential. Skepticism, mankind's scientific and logical compass, seems stunted within their ranks, replaced with dogmatic, shortsighted fervor to rush toward a future that may be much darker than they believe.

There are even implications that the man whose ideas founded their movement, Henry Briggs, was lead to suicide by the visions that he received. What was it that he saw? He supposedly spoke directly to Vanu, so what did he learn? Is it not possible he and the rest of the VS are being manipulated by forces beyond their comprehension? Perhaps Briggs had a revelation that Vanu doesn't have humanity's best interests in mind; that they are merely pawns in some alien scheme? Could the guilt of leading his followers into the arms of a new, much more powerful tyrant than they've ever known before have lead him to take his life out of shame?

All I'm saying is that we don't have all the answers. What I find disturbing is that this doesn't seem to bother the self-proclaimed "scientifically minded" Vanu Sovereignty. Vanu may have some skeletons in his xeno-closet that we're unaware of, but the VS have been blinded by their ambition. Surely I can't be the only one who feels that way?
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Old 2013-05-19, 01:07 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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Heres some scientific observation for the VS: My guass saw fires a whole fuckton of ammo. this equates to a whole fuckton of dead vs and tr. Their science isn't furthering things, whatever it is.

nuff said.
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Old 2013-05-19, 03:08 AM   [Ignore Me] #3
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Every faction is supposed to have its ups and downs.

Thus PlanetSide is IN THE GRIMDARKNESS OF THE FAR FUTURE, THERE IS ONLY WAR

now, in response to your statement:
The intellectual factions typically have some sort of misguided or undervaluing problem to them. See Tzeentch and SIIIINNNDRRIII. Tzeentch'll just kill you off because he's had his fun with your little plan and wants to move on to the next one.

The Eldar, too, have this aery mystery around them, and they are being lead on by farseers, autarch, and such that know for a fact that the Eldar are doomed.

In WarCraft, Arthas didn't know what frostmourne would do. He was a sharp thinker but he was hopeful. Turned out that was a bad choice, and now he's a former paladin turned lich king.

And there's Anakin Skywalker. Guy wasn't dumb. He just wasn't mindful of the consequences.

The Dark and High Templar? How the Zerg came about?

Even in real life, there's the Communists and the Fascists. You'd say that's the TR's route, but both the commies and the fascists tried to use science and logic to reason out their cause. Didn't work. The Romans had the most resources to build the best civilization, but they ultimately couldn't keep it. Vanu appear to be loosely based on rome/greece (esp. in ranks). Now I realize that's a hilariously weak end-point, but you get the idea. Mr. Briggs killed himself probably because the Vanu are having their "last laugh" at this war.

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Old 2013-05-19, 03:09 AM   [Ignore Me] #4
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vanu will force us all to go vegan!

now if that´s not pure evil, i don´t know!
and all the solutions to mans problems are hollow!
they can produce bacon by nanites, but it tastes like broccoli, and they say their science will ensure a world of peace where nobody is forced to do anything, but all their science came up with were weapons to slay the infidels!
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Old 2013-05-19, 03:30 AM   [Ignore Me] #5
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Despite being Vanu for quite a while, I tell you what, there are lots of shades:

A) The Vanu alien only makes contact with 1 man. You see where this is going, right?
B) Despite the "scientific method", the whole faction is based on... FAITH?
C) There're zealots, obviously, ones who will destroy the planet with everybody on if just told that Vanu wants it. Negative people, existing with with any faction, same to criminals fighting for the NC and military in charge of peace on the TR side.
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Old 2013-05-19, 05:48 AM   [Ignore Me] #6
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You do realize it's just a game, none of it is real. People chose VS for their faction because the guns go pew pew and the tank hovers.
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Old 2013-05-19, 05:52 AM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Originally Posted by AThreatToYou View Post
Thus PlanetSide is IN THE GRIMDARKNESS OF THE FAR FUTURE, THERE IS ONLY WAR
read my sig, better tagline of that WH40K line
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Old 2013-05-19, 06:21 AM   [Ignore Me] #8
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Old 2013-05-19, 06:38 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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just opened a vanu closet and that´s the skeleton i found:

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Old 2013-05-19, 07:04 AM   [Ignore Me] #10
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The only skeletons in my closet are those of the unwashed unbelieving masses who can't put their lust for power and money behind them to evolve into an enlightened species.
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Old 2013-05-19, 11:33 AM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Meet the new 4D STS vampire trying to manipulate you, same as the old one back on the other side of the wormhole . . . and any hypothetical pictures of old TR politicos conspiring with such entities are well hidden and heavily secured.

How susceptible to manipulation is an aristocrat v merchant v scientist? They're all fools equally, I say. The concern that the Vanu entity may be parasitic in nature is thus distilled into consideration for the worrisome notion of rival 4D parasites stealing (back) Vanu's natural resources.

If you concern yourself with such games, you'd wonder if it were Vanu that was headed to the top of the 4D hierarchy, or some other eldritch tyrant who's coattails you could ride?

I remain unconcerned. While there is some overlap, my goals do not align with those of would be pharaohs of any dimensional scale. They provide the backdrop, the stage, on which emerges gameplay of a different sort.
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Old 2013-05-19, 11:58 AM   [Ignore Me] #12
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I always like to say when the VS talk about their superiority, if the Vanu were so great, how come they're all dead?
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Old 2013-05-19, 12:37 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Originally Posted by League View Post
You do realize it's just a game, none of it is real. People chose VS for their faction because the guns go pew pew and the tank hovers.
No way! This is a -game-?!

I'm sure that a significant portion do pick for the reasons you say, but there are still others, like myself, who chose based on story.

If you don't care about the lore, why did you even enter this topic? I was even nice and specifically labelled it so that you didn't have to waste your oh so "precious" time on something you don't care about.

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Old 2013-05-19, 01:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Elitist technocratic trans-humans - who wear purple.


Doesnt that more or less say everything we need to know?
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Old 2013-05-19, 02:00 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Originally Posted by Koadster View Post
read my sig, better tagline of that WH40K line
but auraxis just ruins the jingle

it sounds so stupid.
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