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View Poll Results: Should cockpit view be forced?
Yes 287 77.36%
No 84 22.64%
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Click here to go to the next VIP post in this thread.   Old 2012-04-19, 10:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #226
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Originally Posted by elfailo View Post
Are you getting desperate Malorn?

I can look up some nice Ayn Rand quotes for you if that would make it easier to swallow...
? Desperate for what?

Edit: I believe you may have misread what I wrote above, I edited in some clarity. I was amused by the masses bit and was laughing with you, not at you. I thought it was funny. You should not be so defensive and hostile.
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Old 2012-04-19, 11:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #227
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Originally Posted by SKYeXile View Post
When you ask the question in a biased way as you did, expect a biased result.

Nothing to see here with this pole.
There was nothing biased about the way I presented this poll.
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Old 2012-04-19, 11:09 PM   [Ignore Me] #228
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Originally Posted by EVILPIG View Post
There was nothing biased about the way I presented this poll.
That is the common defense when your side loses a poll. At least it wasn't "the unsung masses that don't come to forums don't agree with you".
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Old 2012-04-19, 11:11 PM   [Ignore Me] #229
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Forced, don't want air vehicles to be too op. But it will be nice to try it out during beta to confirm that it will work.
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Old 2012-04-19, 11:16 PM   [Ignore Me] #230
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Originally Posted by EVILPIG View Post
There was nothing biased about the way I presented this poll.
Are you blind?

you asked:

Should there be a third option? Option 3 would still be a 1st person view, but would turn off the cockpit graphics and give you just a HUD, like the earlier screenshots we have seen. Having the HUD View would cater to pilots, as they would be able to see more, but forcing cockpit view offers another distinction between aircraft and their possible advantages/disadvantages.

Should SOE force cockpit graphics?
The pole was "should cockpits be forced" you then went onto say "option 3 would still be a 1st person view, but would turn off the cockpit graphics and give you just a HUD." now this is an FPS game, people here want balanced play, when the cockpit view being at a clear disadvantage over the HUD view, people are going to vote that it should be forced, its as simple as that.

Given a 3rd balanced view and poll option where cockpit is disabled but perhaps at the loss of peripheral vision, there would have been different results, then at the same time, maybe there would not be? people(readeople that were farmed in PS1) seem to believe that the effectiveness of aircraft has be done through making the pilot deal with ugly jizz allover their screen limiting their down view. In reality this is a nonfactor, because then Aircraft weapons would be made effective for when they do mange to spot and target infantry, it all has to be balanced in someway, none of us here are qualified to comment on it, since we have not played PS2, even then msot would still not be qualified to vote their opinion on a balance matter.

I really may aswell go sample 1000 kids under the age of 10 in a shopping mall and ask them should stopping at a stop sign be forced? id get the same useless results as your pole.

So in summery: useless pole is useless.
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Old 2012-04-19, 11:25 PM   [Ignore Me] #231
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I'm a little late to the party, but I say YES they should be forced ON.

Back in SWG I would turn off all the gui and just enjoy flying around inside a Star Wars ship.. it was fucking fantastic! lol... Anyhow, for balance it would be better for everyone to be on the same playing field and really, the 3D cockpit is just a more entertaining way to express flying in a game. Folks will get used to it and they'll eventually never want to play any other way.

Fantastic art btw.
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Old 2012-04-19, 11:29 PM   [Ignore Me] #232
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Originally Posted by Tatwi View Post
I'm a little late to the party, but I say YES they should be forced ON.

Back in SWG I would turn off all the gui and just enjoy flying around inside a Star Wars ship.. it was fucking fantastic! lol... Anyhow, for balance it would be better for everyone to be on the same playing field and really, the 3D cockpit is just a more entertaining way to express flying in a game. Folks will get used to it and they'll eventually never want to play any other way.

Fantastic art btw.
Case in point.
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Old 2012-04-19, 11:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #233
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Alright. I did misinterpret you if that's what you were doing. My reply wasn't meant in a hostile way either though, just kind of jousting since you seem to be such an advocate of libertarianism when it comes to real life issues.
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Click here to go to the next VIP post in this thread.   Old 2012-04-20, 12:29 AM   [Ignore Me] #234
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I don't see how this poll is biased.

Should cockpit view be forced?
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Where's the bias? While a lot of polls on this forum are biased or asking a useless question I thought this was one of the few that wasn't.
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Click here to go to the next VIP post in this thread.   Old 2012-04-20, 12:34 AM   [Ignore Me] #235
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Let me rephrase since that was difficult for you to understand.

How would you re-phrase the poll question such that it had no bias?
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Old 2012-04-20, 12:37 AM   [Ignore Me] #236
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Originally Posted by Malorn View Post
Let me rephrase since that was difficult for you to understand.

How would you re-phrase the poll question such that it had no bias?
I dunno maybe like how i said 9 posts up? or was that too difficult for you to understand?

I used to actually respect your posting, agreed with none of it, but ever since you joined the enclave you have pretty much turned full retard.
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Click here to go to the next VIP post in this thread.   Old 2012-04-20, 12:41 AM   [Ignore Me] #237
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You claimed the poll was useless, you didn't offer a better phrasing. As best I can tell you didn't like the result of the poll so are now criticizing its legitimacy.
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Old 2012-04-20, 12:49 AM   [Ignore Me] #238
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Originally Posted by Malorn View Post
You claimed the poll was useless, you didn't offer a better phrasing. As best I can tell you didn't like the result of the poll so are now criticizing its legitimacy.
Sometimes you need to read between the lines Malorn, CLEARLY this pole is going to have once sided results because one answer is unbalanced because it offers no terms or negatives to it. The pole obviously needed 3 options(As i said now 11 posts up) or the no needed to be clarified with a clause or negative to it like: at the loss of free look.
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Old 2012-04-20, 12:51 AM   [Ignore Me] #239
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Originally Posted by SKYeXile View Post
Are you blind?

you asked:



The pole was "should cockpits be forced" you then went onto say "option 3 would still be a 1st person view, but would turn off the cockpit graphics and give you just a HUD." now this is an FPS game, people here want balanced play, when the cockpit view being at a clear disadvantage over the HUD view, people are going to vote that it should be forced, its as simple as that.
I see no bias, just gross assumption by you as to what you believe everyone else would interpret. I see fail.
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Click here to go to the next VIP post in this thread.   Old 2012-04-20, 12:52 AM   [Ignore Me] #240
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Don't know if trolling or just stupid.
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