"Skill Based Flying" - Page 2

MrVicchio · 2011-07-13, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by Zulthus

You're a cute one, roll eyes and everything!

MrVicchio · 2011-07-13, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by 2coolforu

One aspect we don't want from BF2 is how much jets dominated the game, if your team's pilots were worse than the others then you were in for a world of dive bombing and base-rape.

That's kinda the point behind air power. It dominates. Control the skies, control the war.

Zulthus · 2011-07-13, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by MrVicchio

You're a cute one, roll eyes and everything!

It was ridiculous in BF2, though. There was no way to get your planes off the ground to counter theirs once they had air superiority. AA didn't help, either. The missiles tracking was shit.

Redshift · 2011-07-13, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by MrVicchio

That's kinda the point behind air power. It dominates. Control the skies, control the war.

Hacks the CC? :P

2coolforu · 2011-07-13, 05:08 PM

Yeah but Planetside is all about combined-ops, with aircraft it has no disadvantage in Planetside because the cost isn't there, if the shiny B-2 Spirit goes up in flames because some chip overheats it's $1 Billion down the drain, if a Galaxy crashes into a cliff because the pilot is fapping then its 'Oh well spawn 'nother'. The disadvantages of aircraft don't carry over into Planetside so the balancing factor needs to be there to prevent dominance.

basti · 2011-07-13, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by MrVicchio

Sure any fool could fly around, but lining up on ground targets and hitting them... taking out other A/C without getting blotted out of the sky... flying through the damn upside down while in a dog fight causing the other guy to crash... that's not flying, it's art.

Ohh yes it is. And it will be a pleasure seeing all those wanabes crashing into canyons while the few of us, the real kings of the sky, will fly happily until the world ends.

Zulthus · 2011-07-13, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by basti

Ohh yes it is. And it will be a pleasure seeing all those wanabes crashing into canyons while the few of us, the real kings of the sky, will fly happily until the world ends.

I agree

MrVicchio · 2011-07-13, 05:18 PM

Was that really needed Zulthus? I mean... really.

Zulthus · 2011-07-13, 05:19 PM

Yes.

MrVicchio · 2011-07-13, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by 2coolforu

Yeah but Planetside is all about combined-ops, with aircraft it has no disadvantage in Planetside because the cost isn't there, if the shiny B-2 Spirit goes up in flames because some chip overheats it's $1 Billion down the drain, if a Galaxy crashes into a cliff because the pilot is fapping then its 'Oh well spawn 'nother'. The disadvantages of aircraft don't carry over into Planetside so the balancing factor needs to be there to prevent dominance.

Oh I agree, there is a huge difference between "Real World" and a game. Games must have balance. But it has to be skill based balanced. I loved BF2 pre-AC nerf patch, yes it was over powered but it was for me, a ton of fun, but what made me quit was getting shot down by a guy with a pistol.

:/

That being said, if they are going give flying more... umph in PS2, that means there will be counters. I look forward to it with great anticipation.

Zulthus · 2011-07-13, 05:22 PM

I'm not sure how well PS2 would work with BF2 flight mechanics, but it'd be a neat idea to try out. I really didn't like the PS1 VTOL-style flying. It felt pretty boring, tbh.

morf · 2011-07-13, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Zulthus

I'm pretty sure glass won't be penetrable. It'd lead to quite a few balance issues.

If they don't let you shoot through the glass it won't be Planetside 2 anymore

basti · 2011-07-13, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by morf

If they don't let you shoot through the glass it won't be Planetside 2 anymore

FFS MORF! I had to check if you were the guy who opened that the "BUT IT WOULDNT BE PLANETSIDE!" thread. Goddamn, fool!

Haro · 2011-07-13, 06:02 PM

I wonder how PS2 is going to work out the realistic flight physics with sci-fi vehicle types. I think we all can agree that PS1 flight mechanics were pretty lame, but I would still like to see VTOL quite a bit.

And hopefully they upgrade the AA as well. I'd like to see a really sick skyguard-type with missile pods.

Tool · 2011-07-13, 06:02 PM

yes it was over powered but it was for me, a ton of fun

And was it fun for those who weren't flying? Ah I suppose they didn't matter, fodder they are.