Heavy Cloaker Revamped

[Huma]

Originally Posted by Logit

I feel as if the word Heavy, and the word cloaker. Don't even belong in the same Thread.

Unless it was something like "I saw a cloaker take a heavy dump the other day."

Cloakers should be weaklings, it's the nature of the style of play. YOU'RE INVISIBLE

True but until I found the add info regarding a more open base design it seemed like the only way to go to me. Now with a larger interior design I have a feeling it will be much more porous and cloaker friendly.

[exLupo]

Originally Posted by Logit

Cloakers should be weaklings, it's the nature of the style of play. YOU'RE INVISIBLE

Higby specifically refers to the role as "Infiltrators"*. Assuming always-on invisibility as the role's defining characteristic may well be something left behind with PS1.

*" - You'll have fun as an Infiltrator in PS2, I promise." here.

Consider a comparison to the BF series: 2142 recons have invisibility. They can also wear heavy armor and use a light variant assault rifle for when they are operating in close with a squad.

[Kilmoran]

Originally Posted by Huma

How about this to address everyones concerns:

- unlockable armor that is very deep in te cloaker tree.
- armor value between standard and agile
- instead of stealthing the suit provides a continous screen from enemy sensors (Misq, Motion Sensor, Interlink)
- only weapon useable in the suit would be a suppresor
- access to standard cloaker gear abilities

Why?
Providing this would give a cloaker the option to contribute in a fire fight where cloaking isnt necessary. This way a cloaker isn't punished for specializing when their team needs a little more fire power. Highly trained light arms/armor > Poorly trained heavy arms/armor.


Better?

I did this exact same thing all the time as an agile. Suppressor (Armor rep and med usually), REK. Was my standard because with how my certs were... i really didn't have any other weapons any how. Then again, we used to have implants for this sort of set up any how (Silent steps i think).

[Knocky]

Did you REALLY have to dig this up after 7 months?

[Kilmoran]

Originally Posted by Huma

True but until I found the add info regarding a more open base design it seemed like the only way to go to me. Now with a larger interior design I have a feeling it will be much more porous and cloaker friendly.

If cloakers can properly manuver... then the bases could easily be alot like the caverns were for cloakers... which was essentially a "concrete jungle" for movement. Of course, Light Assault right now are much better at that and well.. may make any cloaker manuverability far less effective.

[Kilmoran]

Originally Posted by Knocky

Did you REALLY have to dig this up after 7 months?

Ah.. actually i didn't even know it was 7 months old. The forum recommended it, I saw it and repleid without looking at the dates.

[Skitrel]

I believe it was mentioned that infiltrators are the only class that can hack, though correct me if I've imagined that from the AMA. This makes them invaluable and a necessary role to have around.

[Kilmoran]

Originally Posted by Skitrel

I believe it was mentioned that infiltrators are the only class that can hack, though correct me if I've imagined that from the AMA. This makes them invaluable and a necessary role to have around.

I certainly haven't heard this confirmation, but if it is true i heavily disagree with it as having any class that is 100% essential for major gameplay situations is going to cause major issues.

[stordito]

Cloackers are now more effective since bases are now more "open".
there are plenty of places to hide (not just CY corners and corridors holes)
no more corridor spam means that a base is could be easily infiltrated even during the usual lead storm.

[Kilmoran]

Originally Posted by stordito

Cloackers are now more effective since bases are now more "open".
there are plenty of places to hide (not just CY corners and corridors holes)
no more corridor spam means that a base is could be easily infiltrated even during the usual lead storm.

It also means there is less reason to be cloaked in the first place for the exact same reasons that is is easier to cloak. However i certainly agree with you.

Though I will also apologize again for necroing this thread as that was not my intent.

[Talek Krell]

Originally Posted by Skitrel

I believe it was mentioned that infiltrators are the only class that can hack, though correct me if I've imagined that from the AMA. This makes them invaluable and a necessary role to have around.

I don't think that's accurate. I haven't heard it before anyway.

[Skitrel]

Originally Posted by Talek Krell

I don't think that's accurate. I haven't heard it before anyway.

Originally Posted by Higby AMA

Q: Can infiltrators capture/hack significantly faster?

A: Capture no, hack yes. Right now infiltrators are the hacking class.

I take that to mean Infiltrators are the ONLY class that can hack. This makes them an absolutely essential support class as opposed to an unessential class that just hides and/or snipes. It gives them a necessary place in teamwork as opposed to just being useless annoying wastes of space or lonewolves (like bf snipers)

[Talek Krell]

Originally Posted by Skitrel

I take that to mean Infiltrators are the ONLY class that can hack.

Ah, I had taken it to mean that they would be faster or in some fashion more effective than other classes. I can see your logic, although making them outright required seems like it might be overkill.

[Knocky]

Originally Posted by Talek Krell

Ah, I had taken it to mean that they would be faster or in some fashion more effective than other classes. I can see your logic, although making them outright required seems like it might be overkill.

They are trying to compensate for the lack of hacking ability that PS1 has.

[Talek Krell]

Originally Posted by Knocky

They are trying to compensate for the lack of hacking ability that PS1 has.

I don't follow. Explain further?