Magrider Main Cannon...

[basti]

Asked about vertical pivot ages ago, it has not.
Means, the gun behaves just as in planetside.

[Lonehunter]

Originally Posted by basti

Asked about vertical pivot ages ago, it has not.
Means, the gun behaves just as in planetside.

Did you mean to replace vertical with horizontal?

I thought PS1's Magrider only had vertical pivot in the main gun, and to look left/right you basically had to strafe/turn the tank. This is how I'd like to see it return. This is the tradeoff for getting a tank that can strafe : /

To be clear no vertical pivot would mean the tank would need to place it's self on a hill to aim up/down, and that just sounds ridiculous.

[Baneblade]

I think most potential Mag drivers are overlooking that the entire tank is the turret.

[Vash02]

Originally Posted by Sobekeus

I think most potential Mag drivers are overlooking that the entire tank is the turret.

If it's able to do it's maximum speed in any direction (forward, side, side, reverse) then fine. Otherwise VS got screwed.

[SniperSteve]

Originally Posted by Sobekeus

I think most potential Mag drivers are overlooking that the entire tank is the turret.

Agree. The turning rate of the entire tank is likely to be the same as the turning rate for the other empire tank turrets.

[Reginald]

The whole tank pivoting is not the only issue, since the main cannon is a fixed forward weapon it means a magrider can only attack with its best weapon when it is pointed directly at the enemy. Unless it can strafe and reverse at top speed then it will be at a significant disadvantage should it have to retreat. Both the prowler and the vanguard will be able to retreat or travel at maximum velocity in any direction relative to the target while still engaging the enemy with their primary weapon.

IMO giving the magrider the ability to strafe and reverse at maximum speed would be clunky and probably look weird. I would rather have its primary weapons on a turret.

[Baneblade]

Originally Posted by Reginald

The whole tank pivoting is not the only issue, since the main cannon is a fixed forward weapon it means a magrider can only attack with its best weapon when it is pointed directly at the enemy. Unless it can strafe and reverse at top speed then it will be at a significant disadvantage should it have to retreat. Both the prowler and the vanguard will be able to retreat or travel at maximum velocity in any direction relative to the target while still engaging the enemy with their primary weapon.

IMO giving the magrider the ability to strafe and reverse at maximum speed would be clunky and probably look weird. I would rather have its primary weapons on a turret.

Yeah, well I apologize in advance for shedding no tears over it. I mean, your tank floats. Pros and Cons Bro.

[RawketLawnchair]

Originally Posted by Sobekeus

Yeah, well I apologize in advance for shedding no tears over it. I mean, your tank floats. Pros and Cons Bro.

Pretty much. NC tanks are slow, with treads... but are powerful.
Hovertanks have much more maneuverability.
Seems fair to me in comparison.

[Erendil]

Originally Posted by Sobekeus

Yeah, well I apologize in advance for shedding no tears over it. I mean, your tank floats. Pros and Cons Bro.

Yes, because in all of the footage and pics that have been released so far, we've seen tons of water everywhere for the Mag to take advantage of.


Oh wait. No we haven't.

Originally Posted by RawketLawnchair

Pretty much. NC tanks are slow, with treads... but are powerful.
Hovertanks have much more maneuverability.
Seems fair to me in comparison.

As others have said, it might work out to be fair if:

• It can rotate in place as fast as the other MBT's can rotate their turret, and
• it has the same top speed when strafing left/right and going in reverse as it does moving forward, and
• the game's Physics allow the Mag to conserve its momentum so it can keep moving in one direction while it rotates to deal with threats to either side or behind it, and
• the Mag's acceleration is fast enough to allow it to change directions as fast as a treaded MBT. Preferrably faster since it's supposed to be the most maneuverable MBT.

If all of the above conditions aren't met, then the Mag will be at a big disadvantage when attempting to engage opponents from any direction but right in front of it. And the larger the battle, the greater the frequency of having opponents attacking you from the flanks or from behind.

Maneuverability won't mean shit if you can't turn to deal with flanking or rear attackers as quickly as a turreted tank can.

[basti]

Originally Posted by Lonehunter

Did you mean to replace vertical with horizontal?

I thought PS1's Magrider only had vertical pivot in the main gun, and to look left/right you basically had to strafe/turn the tank. This is how I'd like to see it return. This is the tradeoff for getting a tank that can strafe : /

To be clear no vertical pivot would mean the tank would need to place it's self on a hill to aim up/down, and that just sounds ridiculous.

It has vertical, it does not have horizontal.
I screwed up. :-D