Originally Posted by IDukeNukeml
Look, this is how I see it bro. And this is just simply an opinion that will also get bashed....
You have a group of people that are so tight-knit that have every answer for the unanswerable that they support each other like a knight supports it's king.
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You are talking about yourself again?
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To acknowledge something bigger than them, scares them. They call it ignorance of people who can succumb to something higher, but it in all reality, they are just afraid.
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Ehr... No. We're just not foolish enough to pick a random faith for the sake of random faith. YOU are the one who is scared of death, of there not being anything more and you have said so on many occasions on this thread. YOU are scared of and can't comprehend the possibilities and implications of there NOT being something more.
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They have either had faith and lost it because or one reason or another or were just never taught any faith at all.. I have said a thousand times that I want just someone to believe in something, but that is just TOO much for everyone here that fights this.
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YOU were TAUGHT faith. TAUGHT. That does not mean you're right because whoever taught you may have been wrong! And guess what? They probably are.
You WANT people to believe something while not giving anyone any good reason to. You don't WANT to comprehend that because you don't WANT to admit you might be wrong. It is too much for YOU to accept that someone may just not WANT to accept something WITHOUT GOOD REASON, unlike YOU.
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If someone wants to believe that their knowledge is absolute pure truth and nothing can sway them from that, then that is their mind-set.
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Yes, YOUR MINDSET. YOU are the ONLY PERSON in this thread to claim to know EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW AND ACCEPT about the universe's creation.
NONE OF US DO. Get that through your thick skull.
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Most people here who are Christian or at least some faith don't want to bother getting into an un-wavering argument with people that see only material things and concious logic.
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Yes, your logic is non-existent, so of course you don't want to get into a logic argument. You can't possibly stand your ground. That is why creationists avoid debate: they know they got nothing to stand on beyond their personal TAUGHT BELIEVES WITHOUT EVIDENCE, WHICH IS CALLED FAITH.
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So they dont. I do. I have. Those who have not fought against it are right to not do so, I haven't made a dent. Nor will I ever.
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Nope, you won't, you're too dense to even understand who and what you are argueing with, because you're so stuck in your own frame of reference and convictions on what "we believe and why" that you can't possibly come up with an argument that would make any sense to us. You keep bringing up that we should have blind faith, even though you don't realise that's something that's utterly UNACCEPTABLE to us.
You don't want to see this though as you keep showing your ignorance and prejudices about why we won't accept this: you say we're scared. We're not scared, we think your reasons to believe are invalid and in many cases (all really) farfetched or stupid assumptions based on hearsay from people without any education or understanding of even the basics of the universe or natural laws whatsoever.
So no, we don't HAVE ANY REASON to believe you. That has nothing to do with being scared. Seems to me that just because YOU are scared, you believe this must be other people's motivations as well. Very annoying to debate with someone like you who refuses to understand anyone else and every time ignores any reasoning provided.
Look Duke, it's very simple: you want to tell us unicorns exist, fine, but we won't believe you until you bring actual evidence of an unicorn. Any unicorn. Instead you ask us to disprove unicorns exist, to which all we can say is: there's no evidence there are unicorns and you're not an acknowledged authority on unicorn existence.
So we have absolutely no reason to believe you.
YOU refuse to accept this because you are willing enough to believe someone who told you there's unicorns. Great for you and you keep believing there's unicorns because you WANT to believe and like fictional horsies, but that doesn't work for us.
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Edit: I will say this though. I apologize for anyone who I've offended and I don't mean to press my religion on you... And I have... But at least, maybe once... Just attempt to believe in something greater than this shitty race.. Please.
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Apology not accepted. Why? You say sorry for attempting to force your religion on us and
then immediately try it again.
You don't even want to acknowledge that we've gone through about a hundred hypothetical assumptions your religion is true and showed these assumptions couldn't be made or in most cases disagreed with eachother and reality.
So again, we've "attempted" but couldn't find any reason to believe you. Quite the contrary, we found many pieces of evidence that your religion is a human construct, extremely flawed and inconsistent with evidence and pressed by zealotty people who are scared of existence.
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