MBT Operators

[NewSith]

Just people stop burning flames. The MBT thread around is just nothing but a postcountfest. Let's clear everything out once and for all.

[basti]

Yes, optional.

Choose between controlling the main gun as the driver, and having a extra gunner taking over the main gun and you just drive.

Thats the minimum. Beta will propably show that drivers should never control the main gun.

[Verruna]

Originally Posted by basti

Yes, optional.

Choose between controlling the main gun as the driver, and having a extra gunner taking over the main gun and you just drive.

Thats the minimum. Beta will probably show that drivers should never control the main gun.

This is my line of thought

[Sirisian]

Don't make a poll based on this. The actual mechanics some people want are far too complicated to be seen in a black and white poll.

[WiteBeam]

Tanks don't need 3 guys. Real tanks don't even need 3 guys.

[Jimmuc]

i say yes for 3 man but as an side-grade. have an different turret that you can research that allows for 2 gunners to take control of the weaponry which allows the driver to focus on driving.

Originally Posted by WiteBeam

Tanks don't need 3 guys. Real tanks don't even need 3 guys.

the M1 Abrams has an crew of 4. most modern tanks have either 3-4 crew members.

[Eyeklops]

Originally Posted by WiteBeam

Tanks don't need 3 guys. Real tanks don't even need 3 guys.

The US Abrams Tank has a crew of 4. Reference

1. Driver
2. Gunner
3. Loader
4. Commander

If your lucky enough to have a tank with an autoloader you can get down to 3 crew members. T-90

1. Driver
2. Gunner
3. Commander

[Zenben]

Standard mechanic is driver takes main gun, another person takes secondary gun. A great deal of specialization later, the driver has the option to add a third seat that is driver only, and the primary and secondary guns are manned by other people. Best way I know to arrange it.

[dsi]

Originally Posted by WiteBeam

Tanks don't need 3 guys. Real tanks don't even need 3 guys.

I lol'd, sure you can drive around with one person, but you aren't going to be able to fire, load, or see anything without massive downtime due to having to crawl into another position.

[Warhound]

Originally Posted by dsi

I lol'd, sure you can drive around with one person, but you aren't going to be able to fire, load, or see anything without massive downtime due to having to crawl into another position.

Since when does reality factor into video games?

Nah how bout we go for true realism and add a commander position and a loader position. Heh, just think the loader position can be like a mini game for the person, quick time events that load the shell!. So that brings the crew to what? about 5? maybe four if we roll the commander position in with the secondary gunner, but who would want that right? We can have more inner vehicle teamwork!

Please gents can we at least wait till beta till we pass judgement on the gameplay,teamwork, and maneuverability issues...

/rant

[Shade Millith]

Originally Posted by WiteBeam

Tanks don't need 3 guys. Real tanks don't even need 3 guys.

T-80 / Crew 3
M1 Abrams / Crew 4 (commander, gunner, loader, driver)
Leopard 2 / Crew 4
FV4034 Challenger 2 / Crew 4 (commander, gunner, loader/operator, driver)
T-84 / Crew 3
T-90 / Crew 3

You're so wrong it hurts.


I think MBT's should require at least 2 people to operate properly. Gunner and a Driver. However, I don't think I'm going to get my wish. As such, I really don't care if there is or isn't 3 man tanks, as they'll probably be overshadowed by single manned MBT's.

[Zenben]

Originally Posted by WiteBeam

Tanks don't need 3 guys. Real tanks don't even need 3 guys.

Not sure where you're getting your information, but an M1 Abrams has a crew of 4.

[Figment]

Originally Posted by Zenben

Not sure where you're getting your information, but an M1 Abrams has a crew of 4.

Most WWII and later tanks had crews of 4 to 6, some only 3. Only the lightest at start of war (and WWI) had 2.

EDIT: of course, we don't have a need for radio operators or loaders.

[basti]

Originally Posted by Sirisian

Don't make a poll based on this. The actual mechanics some people want are far too complicated to be seen in a black and white poll.

Whoever wants something that cant be answered in a "yes" or "no" didnt got the point.

This is a yes or no debate, simple as that. You want the possibility or the be forced for 3 manned tanks, or you dont.

[NewSith]

Originally Posted by Sirisian

Don't make a poll based on this. The actual mechanics some people want are far too complicated to be seen in a black and white poll.

Originally Posted by basti

Whoever wants something that cant be answered in a "yes" or "no" didnt got the point.

This is a yes or no debate, simple as that. You want the possibility or the be forced for 3 manned tanks, or you dont.

Please, give your opinions in the other thread. Firestarting sessions about this are getting annoying.

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