No certs for HA rocket launchers?

Juryrig · 2012-11-28, 06:53 AM

I unlocked the two NC HA rocket launchers (the Crow and the, errr, shrike?) and was hoping (expecting) to be able to spend certs to improve things like reload time and lock range.

But they appear to have nothing available at all - is this right, or am I doing something wrong?

Crator · 2012-11-28, 09:19 AM

I doubt it. They don't really have certs to improve any specific areas in weapons I don't think. They would most likely offer something like that as another weapon (side-grade). Would be cool if they did give a sub-system for weapons that uses certifications for weapons with a limit on those abilities using BR.

Juryrig · 2012-11-28, 10:35 AM

Thinking about it, you're right - it's vehicles and their weapons which are improved by certs rather than hand held weapons, isn't it. CArbines and similar get attachments rather than changes to their core statistics.

I suppose there's the magazine-size increases for the LMGs, but that's about it.

Harrod · 2012-11-29, 06:50 AM

An attachment slot that replaces the top half of the launcher and can EITHER increase lock speed or range and an ammo slot that acts like the HE\AP\HEAT turrets on vehicles would be good.

TheBladeRoden · 2012-11-30, 03:49 AM

Aye, they are "equipment" rather than "weapons" somehow

The Messenger · 2012-12-01, 10:47 PM

Currently there are no cert opetions for rockets although there were in beta so maybe they will return. It was mundane things like extra ammo or faster reload and only useful if you want to be better at taking out vehicles. And IMO, a single HA is the worst thing for AV/AA. There are other things better suited at it, spend your certs on shields and guns first.

And FYI, the other rocket launcher is actually the Hawk; it's air to air. Not that great IMO due to flares and most fighters being able to outmanuever/outrun them. The lock-on crow is decent for taking out tanks but damage is only ok. The starter dumbfire Shreik actually does more damage than the other two. It takes AT LEAST two hawks to kill an ESF; one shreik can set it on fire. Just learn to hit them when they come straight in or hover for a rocket barrage, this will probably get you killed a lot though.

Crator · 2012-12-01, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by The Messenger

Currently there are no cert opetions for rockets although there were in beta so maybe they will return. It was mundane things like extra ammo or faster reload and only useful if you want to be better at taking out vehicles.

There's a cert for one of those: Munitions Pouch (Suit Slot): Can carry extra rockets

The Messenger · 2012-12-02, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Crator

There's a cert for one of those: Munitions Pouch (Suit Slot): Can carry extra rockets

Sweet, thanks I never saw that. But how many levels and how many extra rockets per?

Juryrig · 2012-12-03, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by The Messenger

Sweet, thanks I never saw that. But how many levels and how many extra rockets per?

Up to two extra, I think. Which isn't a lot in absolute terms, but is a big % improvement. Worthwhile for those moments when no-one wanted to play Engineer.

Calisai · 2012-12-03, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Juryrig

Up to two extra, I think. Which isn't a lot in absolute terms, but is a big % improvement. Worthwhile for those moments when no-one wanted to play Engineer.

I guess since you store your spare rockets in your suit rather than on the weapon. You'd think they'd want to suck a few more certs by making it weapon specific (IE 100 certs for added to dumb-fire, and 100 certs for added to lock-on, etc.)

Guess it's nicer for us this way... but just thought they'd use it as a cert-sink.

Crator · 2012-12-03, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Calisai

I guess since you store your spare rockets in your suit rather than on the weapon. You'd think they'd want to suck a few more certs by making it weapon specific (IE 100 certs for added to dumb-fire, and 100 certs for added to lock-on, etc.)

Guess it's nicer for us this way... but just thought they'd use it as a cert-sink.

Nope, looks like they put all the cert sinks into the weapon attachments. Since none of them are global, meaning you have to buy the same weapon attachment on each type of gun.

Well, cert sink also in cross-class abilities that are the same as well. Only the med and repair applicator certs are global.