Your biggest VR-shocks and revalations

[Figment]

Since I never go through the trouble of trialing a lot of weapons, I've mostly found so far that:


- SMGs are FAR more accurate when hipfiring than expected and at ranges I would not have expected a SMG to hit the broadside of a barn, let alone using hipfire to fire at units at long range. (Compared to the standard LA weapon for instance, its killing potential feels epic and damage drop-off not noteworthy enough to warrant calling it a CQC weapon).

- Shotguns with slugs need to be recategorised as sniper rifles. Could one, two and three shot people depending on own aim at ranges where I'm having trouble with sniper rifles at times. Why don't these things have damage drop-off or such high spread they're absolutely useless beyond 20-30m and thus only good for CQC?

- Double Falcon seems decent, but is at least a type of AV where you can't easily hit infantry with - particularly useless at short range: GOOD.

- The Wraith is lol-giggles-facepalm: red light on the rear is clearly visible when cloaked and lights up the entire cloak (especially in the dark).

- You can switch seats on the Wraith and repair yourself mid-drive or have your fellow player do it.

- You can toss C4 and mines while in the rumble seat.

- C4 placed on top of a Wraith cloaks even if tossed on later.

- You can sit uncloaked on a cloaked Wraith.

- Such long splash ranges on most weapons, but splash hardly ever (if at all) hurts vehicles. So what's the point of having splash on AV weapons? To make them into makeshift AI weapons?

[Ruzy]

After lots of testing, I really really wish that I had gone VS instead of TR way back when. I like all of their guns more, and I like all of their vehicles more. Still not sure I could live with the color scheme though...

[maradine]

Originally Posted by Ruzy

After lots of testing, I really really wish that I had gone VS instead of TR way back when. I like all of their guns more, and I like all of their vehicles more. Still not sure I could live with the color scheme though...

It's something we have to work through, one day at a time. <credits>

[MaxDamage]

Originally Posted by Ruzy

After lots of testing, I really really wish that I had gone VS instead of TR way back when. I like all of their guns more, and I like all of their vehicles more. Still not sure I could live with the color scheme though...

As a heterosexual red-blooded male, I agree.

Don't listen to people telling you that it's people who are "really secure in their sexuality" that embrace pink and purple.

Those people just want to stick it in your pooper.

[Twido]

Originally Posted by Ruzy

After lots of testing, I really really wish that I had gone VS instead of TR way back when. I like all of their guns more, and I like all of their vehicles more. Still not sure I could live with the color scheme though...

Although I don't regret choosing TR, I also found that the VS seemed to match my play style better. Please don't misinterpret that as thinking they are OP though. Nearly all the guns are pretty damn good and I am getting better at handling the recoil.

[camycamera]

i tried out the TAS-16 Blackjack pump action shotgun yesterday,by god that thing is a god. compared to the semi auto shotguns that killed the dummies in 2 hits to the chest (obviously one hit to the head) at reasonably close range, the TAS-16 Blackjack killed them in ONE hit. wow.

also, the flash suppressor is really useful for the T9 CARV. constantly before i got the flash suppressor, and especially at night, i couldn't see where the fuck i was shooting sometimes because of the muzzle flash. now i can aim better at night and gives me more reasons to play as HA at night

oh, and you can't try out the kinetic armour on the MAX? i looked for it, couldn't find it? am i missing something?

[Assist]

Originally Posted by camycamera

also, the flash suppressor is really useful for the T9 CARV. constantly before i got the flash suppressor, and especially at night, i couldn't see where the fuck i was shooting sometimes because of the muzzle flash. now i can aim better at night and gives me more reasons to play as HA at night

This is my biggest complaint about the VS weapons. The muzzle flash is horrrrrrrrrrrrrrible compared to the VR/NC. Not to mention we get bright neon lights right in our face at night. The only reason I use the NV scope is because of muzzle flash.

[Assist]

Originally Posted by Figment

Since I never go through the trouble of trialing a lot of weapons, I've mostly found so far that:


- SMGs are FAR more accurate when hipfiring than expected and at ranges I would not have expected a SMG to hit the broadside of a barn, let alone using hipfire to fire at units at long range. (Compared to the standard LA weapon for instance, its killing potential feels epic and damage drop-off not noteworthy enough to warrant calling it a CQC weapon).

- Shotguns with slugs need to be recategorised as sniper rifles. Could one, two and three shot people depending on own aim at ranges where I'm having trouble with sniper rifles at times. Why don't these things have damage drop-off or such high spread they're absolutely useless beyond 20-30m and thus only good for CQC?

All guns are too accurate when hipfiring IMO, however certain guns are way too accurate hip firing. For the VS - Serpent, Solstice, both SMG's, Orion. All the fast fire rate guns need to have much higher hipfire recoil IMO.


Shotguns with slugs are awful in CQC. That's the trade off.

[mrmrmrj]

Someone test the NC MAX versus other MAXes in the VR and let's shit down all the whining right now. I don't have the patience to do it myself.

[Chewy]

Originally Posted by mrmrmrj

Someone test the NC MAX versus other MAXes in the VR and let's shit down all the whining right now. I don't have the patience to do it myself.

You need to give me time first. Couldn't do it yesterday or today as of a family emergency involving a very ill grandmother and getting hit with the massive FPS drops after GU4. I "should" have something as of monday if my weekend isn't ruined at given the time to record, edit, upload, and redo any/everything over again a few times thanks to errors or bad quality.

Doing testing isn't a Lets Play done in a single sitting. It can take HOURS just for recording let alone all of the editing needed on top of Youtube slow as hell (for me) uploads and processing. This is just for one person as well, think of needing a squads worth of people all to have the same schedule times like before the VR room.

[p0intman]

concussion and smoke grenades are functional. you cant teamkill, but you can be very creative with some things.

[Saintlycow]

The flash track is broke. The gorge jump next to the two bridges is impossible to jump.
PLZ fix

[Stardouser]

I was surprised to learn just how extremely powerful a Prowler is with anchored reload timer reduction.

And just how brutal TR HA guns are.

[ThatGoatGuy]

Originally Posted by Stardouser

And just how brutal TR HA guns are.

Oh TR guns are powerful eh? Where's my 200 dmg completely verticle recoil Compensator AND Adv forward grip LMG? I'd like to see that in my arsenal.

[Vashyo]

The shotguns are immensely powerful and teh SMGs are immensely accurate without ADS

I need to work on buying one of each