Sick of surgers

Collin · 2004-02-09, 03:55 AM

I am playing this game for 5 Months now, and it comes for everyone the day, when he needs to write a whinepost.

Yesterday i was fighting in tower near Gahnon and securing the CC. I was wearing the RExo and had a MCG. Well i god pwnd by a Standart Suit JAcksurger more then 6 times before i got him. HEck he was all over the place, in Walls, in the floor and on the Roof.

I am sick of it. There is a WELL known bug in this game (4th barrel) and the JAckhammer + surge + standart + GOOD CONNECTION combo is nearly unbeatable. I dont know why they just dont want to fix it. As it stands now i wait until end of the month, when this is not fixed i give up.

Ravenshield was a great game too, BUT at a certan level of skill it was not a matter of skill no more it was the connection speed who decided the win or loose on a 1 on 1.

Sentrosi · 2004-02-09, 04:03 AM

Jammer nades + Audio Implant > Surgiles.

Use audio to locate enemy. Once enemy is located prep a jammer. Throw jammer grenade at surgile. Surgile slows to a crawl. Paste him with MCG. Note Yellow and Blue guts all over the place. Smile and continue to defend tower.

This does work better with one other person with a thumper full of jammer nades.

Collin · 2004-02-09, 04:06 AM

so u re saying u need 2 Persons to stop an surge exploid user. Well ther is something wrong, is it just me who sees it?

Incompetent · 2004-02-09, 04:11 AM

Sentrosi, i believe the word you were looking for is Punisher.

Sentrosi · 2004-02-09, 04:14 AM

Ahhh yes. TY Incompetent. Punisher + Jammer = dead Surgile.

Not saying two people are needed, but it's often better than one person defending a tower.

Collin · 2004-02-09, 04:28 AM

So u re saying to get rid of a Jacksurger+Standart u need

Punisher
+
Jammer
+
Audio
+
MCG
+
HUGE AMMOUNT OF LUCK

Still i see something wrong here

Veteran · 2004-02-09, 09:11 AM

Surge is broken and chasing away new players.

It was a bad idea from the start.

Veteran · 2004-02-09, 11:19 AM

I know I sound like a retard by saying it, but some of us don't use jump in combat because it produces such ludicrous lag-effects. In other games, it looks like you're jumping around. In PlanetSide, it looks like you're teleporting into the floor and ceiling in rapid succession.

Laugh all you want.

Black · 2004-02-09, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Veteran

I know I sound like a retard by saying it, but some of us don't use jump in combat because it produces such ludicrous lag-effects. In other games, it looks like you're jumping around. In PlanetSide, it looks like you're teleporting into the floor and ceiling in rapid succession.

Laugh all you want.

uhh who said that they jump

ChemicalHex · 2004-02-09, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by Veteran

I know I sound like a retard by saying it, but some of us don't use jump in combat because it produces such ludicrous lag-effects. In other games, it looks like you're jumping around. In PlanetSide, it looks like you're teleporting into the floor and ceiling in rapid succession.

Laugh all you want.

Exactly. I admit that I am a surgemonkey. I use MCG combined with surge to gain an advantage over others. BUT the only reason I do so is to counter the large amounts of other people using surge to gain an advantage over ME. However, I do not jump because even I will not sink so low as to use such a huge exploit. It really sucks to be shooting someone, then suddenly have them go through the ceiling, and then through the floor, and then teleport behind you as a head on the ground that you can't shoot because hit detection is client side. I can't count the number of times I've logged off in frustration to people doing this. They should have never made it so you could jump whenever you want. It just gives the surgiles another advantage they can use against the common player just looking for some fun.

infinite loop · 2004-02-09, 11:34 AM

I totally agree Vet. The warping is almost as frustrating as the newish lag problems. Those 2 things have me screaming on a daily basis.

What even bothers me is the fact that I know I probably warp sometimes too, and I don't want to. I dropped on a tower last night, and a guy was guarding the cc. I dropped him and only took about half damage or less. I know him, so we talk about it for a bit. Turns out I was warping all over the place. I did nothing to explicitly warp, all I did was surge down the stairs. Lame.

Yeah, I use surge, and I'm not going to stop. They need to fix the warping, period. Surge is far too useful to completely remove it from the game. I probably only use surgile 10% of the time I play. I use surge in the field alot with rexo, even in non-combat situations. I think alot of people would be pissed to see it go, myself included.

SandTrout · 2004-02-09, 11:51 AM

Probably the best asset to the surgeling is intimidation. If you remain calm, it is not that difficult to track their movement(when they warp, their avatar does actualy move on your client). You'd be supprised how many surgelings I've killed because the warping caused them to be hovering in some random corner, a perfect target for my gauss.

TheN00b · 2004-02-09, 12:37 PM

Jumping causes warping? Dammit, I'm sorry (seriously) to all the people out there who I've inadvertently pissed off

. I have a damn good comp/connection, and aren't a surge monkey myself, so I don't really experience Surge problems.

Queensidecastle · 2004-02-09, 01:19 PM

It doesnt always cause warping. I am not sure of the connection specifics but It is quite clear on my computer when someone knowing commits a Lag warp and when it is an accident. Jumping on flat ground doesnt cause a warp on my computer but if someone does it on a staircase then its a Warp almost everytime. The lag warp on stairs is extremely easy to spot and I just send tells to people I see exploiting that now and ask them to stop.

ChemicalHex · 2004-02-09, 01:31 PM

Typically the warping is the worst when there's a large battle. Even with a good connection and a higher end machine, there's ALOT of information being displayed and being sorted through. During larger battles, you don't even have to jump to warp around, although it isn't quite as bad. But usually what happens is that someone jumps on a staircase or from a roof or high spot, and on your screen it looks like they just fell through the world or (I especially love this one), they fall almost all the way through the world and appear as just a head on the ground, moving in every direction. It's annoying, but pretty comical. Running up stairs with surge will make you appear to run straight through walls. I haven't gotten hate tells so far, but I bet I warp around alot when I don't mean to (sorry

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